T50: Team tourney (in Contests)

I will be running this tourney in 1 week. To give people a break for a bit.

It will be a team tourney, 4 people per team.

Prizes will be:

Winning team gets 5M each PLUS a free item naming each.

Basically a team will be composed of 4 characters:

More details to follow.

If you wish to put together your team, please do so below.

Team {Blender} assemble! :)

I am willing to join any semi-competitive team.

I'll join, if anyone wants to take me in!

awesome I'd like to join this one. I'll be off of work that week also.

i'm so in

whats the limit on teams? like 4 teams or??

Any amount of teams.

You will be fighting together towards a common goal-defeating the big bad monster that will pop up soon.

However, there will be classes of characters one has to keep.

IE tank, mage, archer, monk, etc...

The goal-
To defeat the mob with the kicker-
You can all attack the mob, 1 time each before it heals. IF as a team you defeat it with 1 attack each, you win. Only 1 person on the team has to beat it. The others can damage it, but 1 attack each.

I am in. It was fun doing a combo kill in ZT2.

A few notes:

1) _IF_ you go the "people get starting XP" route, please also provide at least enough CB$ so that people can convert from a single minion to a 4-minion setup immediately on tournament start - it's a tactical choice, and choices are always good ; ALTERNATIVELY, make tournament minion hiring cheaper by a fixed amount depending on the initial recruitment cost - a bit less of a tactical choice, still a choice nevertheless, and sidesteps the issue of large amounts of CB$ from the start

2) The tournament bonus should be at least +100%, in order to disqualify forging as a feasible means of competition (forge at your own loss) ; don't pick a bonus that is TOO high though, it opens up other issues we have noticed in past tournaments, and I'm not only talking about the tournament store, but also about the tourney's influence on the regular game's scores

3) BUGFIX : now that we have a tournament store, do something about the fact tournament players can not sell "valuable" items to the store ; make them sell into nothingness if selling them to the tourney store is impossible to implement. It's not just a matter of CB$, but also one of inventory space. Not very urgent, but should be tackled eventually.

1) I like giving people some xp to start in order to prevent the problems of the very early game.

There will be some starting xp, not much, perhaps 5M. Fighting a bit should let you hire 1 or more minions quickly.

2) The bonus will be about 500% give or take.

3) I hope this can be fixed. If not, it should not make a huge difference in this tourney.

If you run into issues with space on a character, I am sure someone can relieve you of the items you no longer want.

Starter minion hiring costs for a 5 mil bonus XP at start should run a bit under 0.7 mil for the cheap option (133k XP on new mionion) and a bit under 1.7 mil for the expensive option (555k XP on new minion).
You know, roughly around there ;)
At +500% tournament bonus (*6 rewards), you're probably looking at anywhere from 2 to 4 mil CB$ earned per day, so yeah, it should be doable.

Also,

Remember with the new tourney store, you will be able to get the rares you need for fighting cheaply. The biggest costs will be upgrading you items.

Will we get regular-type tattoos too in this tournament ? :)
Any proposals for what items will be available or not, and how much they'll cost in the T-store ?
:P

Still working on tattoos.

They may be only available to mages as a true familiar. These are things I will tweak during the week.

I am in if anyone wants me ^_^

The team is:
DoS
Miandrital
Kefeck
Nemerizt

I want a part of the team tourney, it just seems confusing how it would work

I'd be willing to play in anyone's team.

How long's it for?
And, anyone want a Vicious Cat in their team?

Red leader reporting in.

I would think 5 million would be quite much to get additional minions. I expect nobody being able to run a 4 minion team. But we'll see.

I'm in.

Prelim character types:

Archer-any missile weapon user, SoD or ELB or MsB or even a long bow if you want.
Tank-Melee tank with no missile weapon.
Mage-Will be able to buy and use a lesser familiar.
Enchanter-RoS based character. Using a lesser RoS.

Those are 4 types right now. Only 1 type per team. Archer and tanks CANNOT use a tattoo.

This is subject to further tweaking.

One last note, the NSC will NOT be in this tourney.

I'd be willing to fill in one of the tank based characters if anyone wants me. Challenging!

2 more things:

There will be a new post the day before the tourney with all the rules.

After the first day, there is no attacking a teammate.

Can the melee tank use UC?

Yes, but I think using a melee weapon would be better. However, knock yourself out if you want to use UC.

Remember there is no junctioning a Jiggy.

and I would like to join a team.

i'm a bit of a noob but I'd like to join a team if anyone wants me =]

I'm a little confused about the team make-up though. Each team has 4 people in it and each of them must be one of the classess listed above? or what?

Cm me if you want on a team

Need one more for team

Newlin, Sparticus and I are the team now.

I want in! Any team looking for player please PM me.

Team Blenderific is as follows

Tal Destra
Sparticus
Newlin
Asgarginia

Clarifications needed...

a) What exactly is the difference between a mage and an enchanter ?
I mean, you can't have both a RoS and a familiar anyway, and you can't have any physical damage weapons, so all that's left is magical damage (especially for the enchanter, since he doesn't have any other damage sources). So basically, the enchanter is much more likely to have a higher DD level compared to a mage, you might as well merge the classes into a "mage" class that can pick either a familiar or a RoS.
Unless... see below...

b) "Only 1 type per team" - what exactly does that mean ?
That each of the four players in a team should have the same type of strategy, or that all minions in every character's training list (if we hire a second, third or fourth minion) should follow the same strategy, or what exactly ?
I assume what you wanted to say was "only one of each type of character in each team of 4 player characters", that would make a lot more sense, and the question at point A) becomes clearer too.
As for the additional minions, no idea how you mean it.

c) Is an archer allowed to use a melee weapon or not ? I suppose not, otherwise there would be no point in having a "tank" class. Just making sure it's specified in the rules.

d) I understand the "victory criteria" will be beating some big character or something like that... how exactly are four separate characters supposed to beat it ?
So what exactly does that mean too ? That all four in a team must beat him individually/separately ? Not much of a team thing then.
Or does it mean they can attack him in "waves", between HP refreshes, so they truly act like a team ? Well, it's going to be pretty difficult to pull THAT off with four people each on god knows what schedule, so in case that's how it's going to go down, we might want to rethink our teams depending on when we're online.


You know, just a few questions :P

Silly my, you already answered D, I just missed it.
Still, that only makes the answers to A and B more important.

a) Mage has DD and a familiar. Enchanter has mage and RoS.
b) 1 type of character per team
c) Archers only use missile weapon
d)
That is exactly what I mean. Attack in waves between character refresh. That is why it is a TEAM tournament. The best team will win. Not necessarily the strongest, but the one that uses all the characters to the best advantage to take down the mob.

"Team" as in "all 4 players" or "all minions on a character" ?
So if I have a single minion tank, the other 3 players in my team have to also play tanks, or one of them has to play archer, another mage and the fourth enchanter ?
And if I want to recruit a second minion on my character, does it have to be a tank too ?

If you mean all players need to play the same type, then I can already tell you, the winning team will have 4 archers, and everything else is pointless.

Wow, people think of every single permutation.

But to answer better:

A team is composed of 4 characters.

A character is composed of 4 minions.

So each team can only have 1 character of each class.

Each character can have 1 or more minions that fit into a minion type. IE: 4 characters using missile weapons or only 1. But an archer character cannot use DD or melee weapons.

Therefore the only characters that can use decay is the enchanter and mage.

All ED and EO spells are available to all characters except GA which is only to be used by the enchanter character.

Of course :)
And thanks for the clarifications AND the added info about GA and other enchantments.
It all makes *a lot* more sense now.

One of the reasons for this post, before the tourney starts is to get all the questions out of the way for a nice easy playing experience :)

Glad to answer!

I have to clarify one thing:

Composed of UP to 4 minions.

To recap, just to make sure I have everything right (:evilgrin:)
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Each team must have :
* one archers-only character (no DD, no melee weapons, no tattoos, no GA)
* one tanks-only character (no DD, no ranged weapons, no tattoos, no GA)
* one mages-only character (no weapons, only lesser familiars, no GA)
* one enchanters-only character (no weapons, only lesser RoS)

Teams start with 5 mil XP on the first hired minion (starter team MPR around 170k, makes additional minion hiring cost about 700k), negligible cash (so can't hire a 2nd minion immediately after), tournament bonus is +500% rewards (growth slightly faster than a NCB that buys no BA).
All allowable items for all character types can be purchased from an endless supply in the tournament-only store.

Winning team will be the one that can defeat a specific target first.
They must defeat the target without outside help, but they can work as a team to weaken the target (only ONE attack per team member before the "refresh tick").
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NOTE : it would probably help if we set a minimum timestamp difference of at least 3 minutes (e.g. 17:36 vs 17:39), or preferably even 5 minutes between any previous attacks on the designated target (regardless of who made the attacks) and the sequence of attacks from a team for a "win attempt" to qualify.

The reason for this is that occasionally, the "respawn" takes a bit longer than usual (up to 2 minutes, I have experienced that personally), and 2 minutes timestamp difference could as well be an actual time difference of barely over 1 minute (17:36:59 vs 17:38:01)... so, you know, better safe than sorry.

Yes,

And the timestamp thing is not a bad idea.

Should that not have been 4 minions?

Each team must have :
* one archers-only character (no DD, no melee weapons, no tattoos, no GA)
* one tanks-only character (no DD, no ranged weapons, no tattoos, no GA)
* one mages-only character (no weapons, only lesser familiars, no GA)
* one enchanters-only character (no weapons, only lesser RoS)



Ok i noticed you didnt list skills. are we free to chose whatever skills we want?

Yes, my mistype


Have fun using whatever you want.

However UC and bloodlust can only be used by the tank, and archery by the archer if s/he chooses that type of weapon.

it would appear that the death by jabberwocky clan will be fielding a team for this tournament! ; )

Btw i have been thinking about it i would like to be the enchanter in team, Also if your still wanting to play and no team feel free to join me send me a chatmail. Honestly i don't know how well i do but it is fun to play either way.

still looking for a team

SK,

Draco and Andy appear to be in the same boat. You may want to CM them.

Me, SK, and Draco are looking for one more person :).

I'll join your guys' team.

I'm also still looking for a team, why don't people contact me?

Because Shade we all know your so good that your still going to beat us all with your 1 man team! Its only fair to everyone else to not join up with you. :]

p.s. I think I see a very large flaw in this tournament, haven't noticed it before.

We get 5 million experience but no cash at all. How does a tank (either ranged or melee) get to deal it's damage and be competitive in contrast to mages whom have experience to spend?

Come on shade, we are going to bust out those Tulwars with our 300k+ str! :D

All weapons will cost 10 CB each.

So you will be able to get a base weapon to start.

The first few fights may be tough, but with a 500% bonus, you should make enough money quickly to have a decent NW weapon fast.

So Trentin... and ? And?

Only 3 more days to gather a team.

Me, SK, Draco, and Titan are a team :).

I seem to have joined Salketer's team!

Yup, Me, Apoclypse and Shade are currently teaming up, still looking for a last brave soul do it quick!!

Can I join Salketer? Lol

Me, Apoclyspe, Shade and Vicious Cat will be teaming up in the tournament!

Sorry trentin saw it too late :(

Ranger:
Will we be allowed to see the Big Bad before we start?

Will we be allowed to see the Big Bad before we start?
Possibly!

:-P

Whos team am i on >.>

Trentin, you may want to CM Andy.

would it be possible to get all of the details thus far edited into the first post along with the starting time?

Sounds like a fun tourney, wish I had the time for it. I really enjoyed the last 'teamwork' tourney I played in, the Gridiron football one.

Tomorrow

Thanks ranger That would be greatly appreciated... And more info about the target could be nice to have like a day before we start? Remember we have to plan a team of 4! :)

Hmm i see some people are still missing team mates I figured i'd ask if they can't get anyone else maybe they could if you would allow them to maybe make 2 chars to fill rosters, obviously if they feel they can handle, admin does not mind, and if there is no one else to fill the spot.

No I can't agree with that. Allowing players to make two tourney chars would be just ridiculous... Even having them in different teams, it would still contribute to unbalancing of the tournament which I totally don't want. Even if I feel like I have very light chances on winning I don't think it would be fair to have 2 chances at winning. "If they can handle it" that's a bit dumb because if both characters went the same strategy, it would be as easy to control two than controlling one.

One guy, one character. IMO

Apo: those people should either team up or find players outside the tournament to join.

Just a thought I could i see how it would be unbalanced.

Note to all:

In the beginning not all rares will be available.

The NSC will not be included in this game at all.

We have 2 teams as of this post. I hope to have 4 total for this contest.

There will be a participation prize of course.

Me, Elite, Draco, and Titan will be on a team.

We should get a list together of all the teams.

put your lists in the other thread, where the 2 currently subscribed teams are put already ;)

im in if someone wants to cm me with a spot.

I would post below if your looking for a team. If you can only find 3, you can choose any 3 of the 4 character types and you can make a team.

However, you will have a disadvantage but there may be a surprise to help catch up :)

I'd also like to join a team. one more, and we've got a team of three