Game - Shakes and Fidget (in Off-topic)

For those interested, dudemus and I are playing a game called Shakes and Fidget. It's a casual game that doesn't require much time to play each day, and we've started a guild. Hop on over and if join us.

Here's the generic link:
http://s1.sfgame.us/index.php

If you want to use one of our referrals, just CM myself or dudemus.

looks fun!

It looks like you'll have to get an invite to join the guild. Just CM me your game name and I'll shoot you an invite.

it is a pretty cool game. if i was doing it all over again i would concentrate on money reward quests rather than xp ones as you use money to up your skills other than small automatic skill ups when you level.

i would also save all of my mushrooms for drinking at the bar to allow you to do more quests. i wasted a dozen or so just skipping timers. ; (

find out what your main attribute is and put most of your money into that or in combination with your constitution.

check your stores each day for dungeon keys or really good gear! visit the city guard when done for a while to make more money whilst away.

Fair warning to all -- As you hack and slash your way through this game, you'll feel a familiar breeze against your bits and pieces. Just like in CB, you can equip gloves, boots, helmets, and other items... but not pants.

rofl..... oh man make me fall out of my chair... "bits and pieces"

I've been playing it for a while. And yes, Dude is correct. Do quests for the biggest chunks of gold before the biggest chunks of experience. You'll need money far more than XP. Also, focus on three stats with your money. Primary Damage, Str for Warrior, Int for Mages, Dex for Rogues. Constitution for HP and Luck for Crit.

Quite honestly, this is the way I could of seen CB going.

if you do not have a guild, princess, we would love to have ya. post your screen name over there and we will get you in. we have four of us in there now chatting!

Congratulations
Your chatmail priviledges have been revoked indefinitely. Have a nice day.

I love that message.

Character name Merikah.

invite on the way!

Also! Mushrooms are your greatest resource. Hold onto them and use them to buy really good pieces of gear from the shops. Otherwise, just hold onto them, don't use them to speed things up.

Throw an invite at AbbathorX if you can. My 2 hours of playing experience will surely come in handy ;p

'tis done...atm we can only fit ten in our guild and we now have six. we can upgrade it but it costs a bunch so if ya want in move quickly.

Also, when doing tavern quests, keep your eyes out for keys that unlock dungeons. Once you've finished the quest, go to the dungeon section and it will unlock it automatically.

Invite Wraithlin in game at some point

So i hit the arena button and it said i was being attacked by some lvl 23 guy, which i knew i couldn't beat. And it said i had to fight him or someone i put a name in the box for.

At this point i didn't know i could just click somewhere else to go and skip the fight, I thought i had to name someone or fight a lvl 23 guy.

So I typed in "No one"

Turns out No one is a lvl 1 shmuck with no gear that I waxed fairly easily, go me.

Invite sebidach! :)

it looks like invites were sent to Wraithlin and sebidach.

that should leave 2 more slots until we reach capacity.

Made a character by the name of 'sacred'. Throw me an invite?

Cyclonic is mah dude.

Thanks! Too sad I can't play this game on my mobile, that's a big plus for CBs interface. :)

Wraith, if you were being matched against a 23 at your level, they were terribad. Also, just push the arena button again and it'll give you a new opponent.

the guild is full over there as of now. if we can save up 160g we can upgrade to hold more members so if others like the game and let us know we can move in that direction.

even without a guild it is a very fun game and if we notice others or if you become inactive, let us know and we will kick to make room for others that are active!

it's better to just search for someone to fight and then type them in than use the random matchmaking system.

I'm alot higher rated than my level should be so I have to do that or I get all lvl 10+ people and i'm only 6.

Thats not really surprising. Mages do a lot of damage to make up for their lack of HP.

Even though we're maxed out in the guild, still post your name if you start playing!

Between the 10 of us, we can pretty easily increase the limit and fit more in, it just might take a day or so.

from reading the forum, it would appear that each upgrade of the fortress only gives you one more member slot. the first upgrade is 160 gold. ; (

okay where they hiding the keys? lol

lvl 10 is your first key

Just started and only level 6. No wonder I couldn't find any. RyanRaven is my user name. Not a bad little game :)

once you reach 10, you will see one at some point as a quest reward. it can take a while from what i have read but it happened fairly quickly for me.

guild war costs:

http://forum.sfgame.us/showthread.php?t=34

guild upgrades:

http://forum.sfgame.us/showthread.php?t=25

I've been playing this for a few days, Mambazo is my character's name, if you guys get room in the clan invite me.

hey badfish, we will try to get another upgrade on the clan to get ya in, may take a day or so though. ; )

invite sent badfish. ; )

That went surprisingly quickly. Next up is AK, and that's the last so far. I'll be able to toss some more money into the pot once my 10hr shift ends.

Um, in-game shift.

Cotillion in-game. Level 5 DE Mage so far.

lostling lvl 3 dwarven warrior

CM maxepete for invites into the second CB guild. It is named Snicker SNack

And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.

;)

You can ask for invites at 'maxepete' in both CB and S&F.

PS: I already invited Titan, Cotillion and Lostling.

There are now 17 CBers playing. Anyone else who's interested, jump aboard. Just post your character's name here and you'll get a guild invite. There's still plenty of room in the 2nd guild.

And if anyone else does want to try the game, feel free to CM me for a referral code.

dark elf mage, Zandagarth

Hi, I give it a try. Please invite :) - PoisoN Arrow

Invites sent.

Btw: What is the plan for the future. Will Demigod's guild be able to stock up memberslots soon, so that we can swap over to you? If yes, then we would not spend any gold for guild upgrades and perhaps save some to bring in to you. If not, then we should probable invest a little bit.

We'll have to run two guilds. There's no way we can fit even close to all of you guys in ours. Right now, we have 13 members, and it will cost 291 gold to get one more person in. That cost increases every time we add someone. We could save up and get one or two more people in, but I'd hate to imagine the cost after that.

You have 7 in the 2nd guild, meaning you can fit 3 more for free, and a fourth for a tiny bit of gold per clan member. I figure some players will quit the game over time, and we can consolidate clans when that happens. For now, all new players are headed your way.

Also we need someone to beat up on, so expect a guild fight in about 3 hours.

Guild fights may cost money, possibly $150 to fight a "fortress 10" team. We'll find out tonight.

Character: Ragatag

oh yeah.... since I'm up to level 11

Char = Lochnivar (yeah, I know right?)

Alright, CB clan number 2, "snicker snack" can hold one more person currently

If any of you who have joined a guild decided that you don't want to play the game (which would be odd, since the game is fun), please post here or let your guild leader know so we won't keep non-players aboard.

do we have a 3rd guild going yet?

Nope, but we fit in a couple more before that becomes a problem. Removing any verified quitters will just make it easier.

Serialkiller

add me back

lostling lvl 1 gnome mage

I just signed up as well, although I have no idea what I'm doing yet. Vaynard.

add me. Meona lvl 4 scout

How did you guys get the key for the first dungeon? apparently its suppose to drop at a level 10 quest, is it specific or random?

nvm just found it :D

all of you that are asking to get in a clan, please let me or demigod know if you do not get an invite fairly promptly.

The hope is that Maxepete can fit you in his clan rather quickly, otherwise I will need to see how many people are stuck waiting.

snicker snack is currently full.

so it looks like vaynard & meona still need a home? is it time to start a third guild?

Im Freekie like everywhere else. Been playing a few days or so but it seems a little slow for my liking.

I am Admiralkiller

If anyone wants to start a third guild, jump on it and invite the others. We've increased the member-limit three times in the first guild, and now the cost is far more than we have.

We can worry about consolidating clans down the road.

How much is the next tier. Im sure i can save up quite a bit in a couple days.

around 300 gold, hehe.

but wee need to get 3 or 4 more people in which guesstimating from the cost of the last few levels would be between 1000 and 1500 gold total.

It's only 100-some-odd for the 2nd guild... but give me a sec to do a head count...

each upgrade only gives one more guild slot whereas a new guild automatically gives ten slots. it is much more cost effective to open a new guild rather than trying to get others to fit in these especially since more cb'ers are joining by the day.

Admiralkiller
Freekie
Meona
Vaynard
Ragatag

These are the guildless heathens. That's a half-filled clan right there. Will one of you guys start a guild (a petty 10g, which appears in your guild fund anyway) and invite the rest?

And if anyone else wants to try out the game, please add my referral code to the end of the URL: "?rec=175241"

There's a stupid little badge that lights up when you have a referral, and it's taunting me with its lack of luminescence.

I would but I wont be active enough to manage one.

I can tonight after work if noone else does. I spent all my gold on stats already.

I made one called CBIII and sent invites to that list. Let me know if im missing anyone.

All I need to do now is find someway to port my 8mil RoBF over and this game is over.

everyone in the jabberwocky clan please click on the guild war button that says something in regards to prepare yourself for the battle or somesuch.

we are at war! ; )

ETA: 6.5 hours

We'll let the other two clans know what happens.

Hey I was thinking....If gold is more important ....It would be best to go with the quest that has the most gold per second?...vs the one with just the most gold?

that is what i do ak. demi thinks xp is king. i would rather level slowly and spend lots of cash along the way. ; )

My reasoning is that two of your stats are level-based, and that each level provides better gear and possibly more gold -- though I'm not sure about the last one.

but at level 50 you will still have the same stats and equipment regardless of how fast you got there and fighting another fifty if you can have more gold invested in stats then who will win?

Probably the guy who's at level 60 because it took longer for the gold farmer to reach level 50.

and since there is such an amazing prize for getting there first...

Wait, there's prizes?

Does increasing your member limit increase your guild level? When your mouse is over treasure it says (level*2)... Is that guild level or am i missing something?

treasure level * 2

Wow am i totally overthinking this or what?

there are three guild upgrades, one gives more members and increases your fortress levels while the other two increase gold or xp rewards.

Increasing your Fortress level also makes it more expensive for other guilds to fight you. But the most important part is that more members equals cheaper upgrades per person.

Jabberwocky goes to war! Log in and sign up!

We go to war at 9am server time. Five teammates still need to prep for battle.

If there are any openings in any of the guilds I'd like to get in on one... Just wanted to check it out for a few days to see if I'd commit to it. Name in game is also Picasso.

Expect an invite from CBIII (likely from BabySammich aka Freekie)

I agree with dudemus, I have been leveling slowly and just throwing all my cash into stats and it has been working out well for me.

yeah i think my character is comin along pretty good, im a lvl 14 mage and im ranked in the 12000's already. Name is alteiri, look me up. :)

Be sure to message Freekie to join the guild.

Since I will not stay active in CB in the future, I pass over the crown of leadership of the CB guild #2 to PoisoN Arrow, who contributed the most to the guild. I'll try to be active in S&F for the near future though. Anyways: Hail to the new King! :)

You're welcome back anytime.

I just signed on, Gourmetski is the name and I'm a yawning demon ;p

How do you know what monster you will encounter when picking a quest?

There is no way of knowing.

Does working continue while being offline?

Yes.

Send a mail to Freekie to get an invite. And always work a shift when you go to bed... easy, easy money.

Thought so, Freekie already invited me. :)
lvl 6 now and went from 117thousandsomethingth to within 27000th :)

Invite Hatchetman!!! =-O

Should be one slot in the main guild, as I no longer have the desire to play.

What alternative way is there to gain Thirst for Adventure?

I know I can drink a potion, costing me a mushroom but I've already drank 10 of them today.

There isn't Shade. You get a set amount that can get up to per day and the rest of the day is spent working.

Also, stop wasting shrooms on adventures. :P

Ditto, don't waste your shrooms on beer! When you get to higher levels, those shrooms can buy some nice gear. Thirst resets at midnight server time.

Ahh, I still have 20 shrooms (got quite some during quests)

The graphics remind me a bit of Planescape Torment btw

Ok. I just started Sox is my name. How do you re-load that thirst for adventure bar?

With beer from the bar. Costs mushrooms, mushrooms cost cash, not recommended unless you like to buy ingame money.

It reloads every day at midnight server time. Don't worry about it and really... save your shrooms for good gear past lvl25.

Well, cool. Whichever guild has room. Invite me :) Or tell me who to ask for the invite :)

Thanks for invite. Oh, if you remember an old member of CB named Cylo, the guy that got me started on cb. He is playing that game also, His name on there is Reddy33 if you want to invite him also. If not that is ok :)

Opps I spelled his name wrong it's Reddy34. Not 33.

Not finding a player by that name. 1 spot left before upgrades needed.

XD gotcha.

Ok. big question. Should I use mushrooms as drinks to get 20 more thirst for adventure? I know you can use 10 mushrooms per day to get 200 more so basically 2 full bars for adventuring? Is that worth it? or just when it runs out. Work until the midnight refresh?

No. Save the shrooms for nice gear in the stores.

i get my gear through quests and cash only store items and save my shrooms for the best mount, 50# timer reduction is da bomb! 25 shrooms gives you 14 days of twice as much thirst for adventure.

if you were buying thirst at the bar it would take 5 shrooms a day to equal that which would be 70 for the same two week period.

; )

Saved.

So how did those guild wars work? I see some interest in our guild chat.

what is the use of the mounts?

The mounts reduce the amount of thirst you lose when you fight. Better mounts = more fights per day. I'm using the 30% mount.

And the wars are like the arena. You select a guild to fight from the "honor" list, and you pay a certain amount of gold based on team size (fortress). Fortress 10 costs 150g. Once you've selected a guild war, both your team and theirs will have about 12 hours to log in and click on a button that says "prepare for war." That's it.

Only those who logged in participate, and the war is a series of automatic fights, starting with the lowest level characters and working up as they lose. Last team standing wins, but the earnings aren't really worth it until your bonuses are high. The entertainment of rallying your guild and chatting is better than the earnings.

If anyone has quit the game, please let your guild leader know so he can remove the character.

Also, it means you have horrible taste in games.

If you are buyig the thirst bar with the 30% mount (one shroom for 2 weeks), it would only cost 3 shrooms a day, or 22 total for the same 2 week period ;)

I might be a little iffy on my play time for a while guys. Moving back to Texas at the end of the week.

3 per day times 14 days equals 42. What am I missing?

If the other guilds dont mind, could you post your guild bonuses and cost for another member?

Jabberwocky

Fortress: lvl 13 - next lvl costs 291g
Gold Bonus: 28% - next lvl costs 348g
Exp Bonus: 26% - next lvl costs 291g

Snicker Snack (CB guild #2)

Fortress lvl 10 (10 people Max): Next upgrade will cost 160 gold
Treasure lvl 10 (20% Gold Bonus): Next upgrade will cost 160 Gold
Instructor lvl 9 (18% Exp Bonus): Next upgrade will cost 128 Gold

CBIII

Fortress Lvl 10: 10 Members 160G
Treasure Lvl 11: 22% 197G
Instructor Lvl 6: 12% 60G

You guys might be expecting a little merging of my clan to yours... mine is kinda lame :P

If any guild has space, invite noid plox, i'm active :>

Is Shade still playing?

You can thank me for Jabberwocky. Hopefully they'll leave me a space when I go afk for a while.

He's not really kidding... the rest of us are playing catch up.

Ouch 8 shrooms per piece of decent equipment already... Do you tend to get more during quests if you dont have many? I rarely seem to find em and 2 pieces of equip will drain me.

Nah. They're a pain to get all the time. Just keep saving em up. I generally spend 1 to get the 30% mount so I can do more adventures, and hopefully find more shrooms.

Also, don't worry so much about your gold issues. Once you hit lvl20-ish, you start making stupid amounts of cash by doing a 10hr work shift.

BabyCakes. Why is our guild lame.. I thought we were doing ok for being the 3rd guild formed. :(

There's a 5-8% shroom drop rate. Just pick shorter quests to increase your overall odds of finding them. And use your guild mail system to ask your clan to donate for bonuses. They help!

Allrite, gotten started with this game, fits my computer time perfectly. If any guild wants me,send invite :)
Username: RipTheJacker

I have joined, character name is "zev" invite if you like :)

I'm surprised the other guilds haven't increased their member limits yet. More people = better. I'll try to get Jabberwocky to save up money for another member ASAP.

Do you get anything else other than guild honor by winning guild battles?

You get a little experience, but at the point Jabberwocky is at, the guild battle is not worth the gold cost.

freed is making a new guild tomorrow. i have so far noid, zev & RipTheJacker as needing invites once it is created.

Yeah, it's the equivalent of the arena. You'll get more out of it, but not enough to warrant 150g until 15g per person is tiny (lvl 30+).

If were not wanting to make more guilds... i do believe shade hasnt been playing (vacation or something?). So by tonight i can take 2 more members, maybe 3 after i do all my questing.

Shade went on holiday. If he gets back into the game after he finishes meandering through Prague, we can pull him back into a clan.

I sent an invite to RipTheJacker. Assuming 12G is donated by other people ill be able to send out another invite an hour after refresh.

Thirst for Adventure. Does this replenish everyday? Or do you have to keep spending mushrooms for the drinks?

It resets to 100 at 12am server time on S&F or 3am CB server time.

perfect, thanks :)

hmm, we did the upgrade to get one in. if we don't get others then that will work!

i went ahead and invited freed to ours then as he didn't post here.

that leaves zev & noid after the one you already invited. we can probably get another tonight.

Noid's in SnickerSnack and we just sent an invite to Zev.

Aside from Shade, is anyone else waiting to join a clan?

http://forum.sfgame.us/showthread.php?t=472

Thats the link to every Dungeon's stats, how/when to unlock them and what you'll suffer from as you try to beat them.

guys u should all get starcraft 2 and we can all do a lan party and fight each other on teams

As I don't need more online time wasters, I'm going to step back from S&F. I will continue for a while to donate every gold piece I earn to snicker snack. Will look around to find a volunteer for the leader position soon. After that a place is free in [snicker snack]. Thx guys :)

Do you get worst rewards the more times you try to fight the dungeon bosses? Cause I've only gotten gold rewards before...

It seems to be random. I went through three bosses without getting a drop. The next boss beat me up repeatedly before I won out of luck (I finally landed multiple criticals). That boss gave me a huge drop.

Snicker Snack is being attacked!

Ready for defense as Black Knights are coming!

Ouch, if they get all twelve active members prepared, this won't be pretty. But if they only get 9 of their guys prepped in time, and Snicker Snack gets all 11 ready...

looks like we're going to lose the fight, what happens when we lose?

Forced castration. Otherwise, no clue. None of us have lost one yet.

We've lost one, you just lose honor. We lost one like as soon as we created the guild, it was stupid.

What the ETA for the slaughter-fest?

too bad you can't forge alliances with guilds to assist in those guild fights. But... we can attack them back to avenge you guys. Do you think the jabbers can take em?

Yeah, you guys could probably beat them.

;p I'm game, but I won't pull the trigger unless the rest of clan Jabberwocky wants to as well.

I joined up. Invite if you can please, user name "kefeck" on there as well.

Heck, I love bandwagons.
Womp on there, too.

We're up to 15 in Jabberwocky and can't afford another one just yet. Snicker Snack is at 11 and CBIII is at 10.

Can you guys pull him in? If not, we might be able to invest the 412g by late tonight. Loch, Freekie Baby Eater, or anyone else in those clans, let us know.

woot, we were massecred!

Just kidding... my puny laptop doesn't like S&F... clicking things is a pain, so i'll stick with CB for now.

Kefeck invited.

And i still have an open spot for someone else or Shade when he gets back.

Jabberwocky is going to war!!! We're avenging our comrades. All members of the guild, please log in a prepare for battle. The Black Knights must fall.

Jabberwocky returns from war victorious! Snicker Snack has been avenged.

The enemies were slain -- and it was extremely entertaining to watch. We'll have to do that every week.

how often can we go to war and what does it cost - it would add an extra interest to the game.

as often as we can afford it, our cost for war is based on the opponent guilds fortress level.

Name is hamez. If I could get an invite to one of the main guilds if still active. Thanks.

I think Snicker Snack has an opening. Can one of the members confirm or send an invite?

invite sent...

we have a space now since the upgrade I think

Jabberwocky is now at 16 members.

Let us know if CBIII or Snicker Snack gets attacked again. I like those guild wars. They may not be profitable, but they sure are fun.

Hey look, I already have an account on there, yay. Someone throw an invite when you can ;)

Lolopants


a large cookie to whomever can tell me the origin of the account name ;)

invite send spydah

are we ever gonna merge?

Anyone found a common pattern to the gambling guy? Like center left right right center?

I only played it twice to test it out. The odds don't seem worthwhile.

And it will take us a long time to consolidate the clans. Our next member will cost about half a grand, and it goes up quickly. But we might be able to break it into two clans... I can't log into the game from work, so let me know how many members are in CBIII.

We can see about adding spaces to Jabberwocky and Snicker Snack to pull over everyone at once.

I was thinking about this gold vs xp debate yesterday. I am starting to think that XP (initially) is more important. I am assuming that gold per hour while working is based on lvl and the amount you receive is quite substantial. Once you reach a certain lvl you can use that extra gold on character growth. At the lower lvls the gold gained is so little that gaining the extra lvls sooner outweighs the value of growth early.

Any thoughts or arguments?

I'm now at lvl 31 or 32 and I've never seen a reason to budge from my stance that EXP is more important.

Gold increases with each level, so slowing down your level (exp) growth just slows down gold in the long run. I can't check right now, but I think I make about 228g per 10-hour shift. And since I've beefed up my three main stats, they cost an average of about 50g each now. If I stuck with gold, it would take me longer to build those stats.

demi and i started about the same time and are now within a level of each other i believe. i have concentrated on gold whilst he on xp. i have made almost 15k where he has made around 9k gold.

i can only speak for myself but i would rather have the stats that come with the higher nw rather than the extra level. ; )

::cough::

1. You started before I did (you're the one who told me to join the game).
2. You're also using the highest steed in the game -- that gives 50% bonus -- while I spent two weeks with that stupid pig... at 10% bonus.
3. I still caught up to you and passed you.
4. I also out-rank you in the arena, despite you having almost 40 battles more than me.

Keep going for gold. I'll let you know what it's like at the top of the game. ;p

at least your not bitter! ; )

Nah, bitter would be downgrading your officer status. Hmm...
::wringing hands::

/me chuckles from the background at what he started.

In the end the competition helps our team. So at the end of the day shrug it off and know that you're building a stronger Jabberwocky

demi and i do this all the time on the clan wall. it is all in jest and he knows i am right so that is pretty much all that matters to me. if we could just attack each other...

seriously... they do this ALL the time on the clan wall....
it's like being in kindergarten only with out that quick hit of glue eating to smooth out my afternoon....

Whoops, I wasn't present while people thought this was serious. It's all in jest. On a completely separate note, I just got back from seeing "Dinner for Schmucks." Whatever you do, don't see it. It's flat-out horrible.

I saw some posts about this and decided to go for gold - are we saying that exp is better now - and can I xfer my CB money over there :)

hey demi, i just fought you twice...didn't know we could fight guildmates in the arena but you can if you type in their name!

we are pretty evenly matched, the lucky crit tends to decide it. you won the first and i the second but in both fights the loser would have killed the winner with one more hit.

i guess the real question then is does the one level help ya more than an extra 6k gold?

It's not an issue of one level. If you and I started at the same time and used the same steed, I'd be somewhere around 4-5 levels higher, which would grant me a win every time.

So in that sense, I much prefer EXP over gold.

i thought i posted the link in our clan on the first night i played the game. maybe i just get confused from counting all that gold though!

I can't log into the game at work. How many members are there in CBIII? I assume Snicker Snack has more members.

If everyone wants to consolidate guilds, we can begin stockpiling member slots with Snicker Snack to have two huge guilds instead of three big ones. ;p

This will get expensive very quickly, so please give some input!

Were at 11 members with room for one more.

I found this game on the Out of BA link a while back when I came by and wrung out 160. I've got a Scout on there named Zubat. Feel free to send him an invite (or toss a pokeball at him, or what have you.)

If we do consolidate 3 into 2 we should see how much money has been spent into clan upgrades and take the 2 with the most spent. Also would be helpful if when a member joined from another clan he/she came with a nice chunk of gold to donate for the cause.

invite sent ob!

the original plan was to consolidate as we had some go inactive. there have been very few doing that and more coming in all the time. i guess the first order of business is to keep making room in the 3 and if we do ever start shrinking then consolidate?

as for the other two clans total numbers and if the are all active?

oh and we are level 17 on all guild upgrades in jabberwocky.

we have 13 in snicker snack

Just repeating the question. We all appear active in Jabberwocky. We have some, it seems, who aren't using 100% of the thirst every day, but I still see them logging in.

Obviously the part of "how many" has been answered.

Just in case you are wondering, I do use my 100% thirst every day. Just isnt enough to catch up to people who started playing weeks in advance of me

lol, I didn't mean you.

lol, you two.


I don't do EXP vs Gold.

I take the mission with the shortest amount of time so that I can do the maximum number of missions possible with my thirst. That gives me a better chance at finding shrooms, which are more important to me than gold or EXP.

I don't know who it was, but someone complained in the Jab guild chat that the excessive donation notes made following actual chat hard. thanks for the tip, like the complaint and I feel the same. Made thread in suggestion forum about it

That was me. I'd prefer if donations were in a separate chat window or something, so that you can see actual guild chatter as well. :P

Didn't know there was a suggestions forum, or I'd have gone there too! I'll go post backing you up on that suggestion.

ob, since i have gone to putting all my mushrooms in the elite mount, i also pick the shortest time. however, when it comes to several with the same time i then pick gold over xp. ; )

i figure the elite mount is already doubling my thirst and thus quests and also try to max out the chances for getting another shroom. it has been working well so far for me.

Yeah, the elite mount really is nice. Unfortunately, RL caught up to me after I initially purchased it, and so now I'm left with very few shrooms; I'm currently going with the 30% mount and trying to save up to get back on the elite one.

I, too, tend to go with gold over EXP when there are multiple low times, though. Not so much because I think it is a better choice or anything, it's just that I know I'm not going to be the highest level so I don't see why I should push myself beyond my stats to get there.

As a reminder, Jabberwocky will go to war tomorrow. Members, be sure to prep for war when we do.

Dudemus -- Since my schedule is erratic this weekend, you may have to initiate the battle. I got a few target suggestions, but they all seem like very easy wins. Just try to find a clan that will last long enough to let most of the members participate. With 17 of us, that's not easy.

aye aye capitan! ; )

taking suggestions for targets for our guild war tommorow:

i found the following:

pokemon

are we still trying to find a target with little to no fortress upgrades for cost or does that not matter?

"pong lenis" - has about 13 members
"rat catch clan" - has 1 member in the level 40 range. Looks like he is farmed quite a bit. But might as well join in on it :)

what is this 'prep for war' - is there something you have to do specially for a war ?

when one of us declares war we all have 12 hours to "prep" which entails pushing a button on the guild screen. all who prep then take part in the battle. we try to get everyone involved as our odds are then better.

The button is a sword that's right above the chat window (currently grayed out). If you fail to prep for war, you'll go into battle with only half of your health.

ah I thought there was some special thing like we all had to drink a potion or something - yeah I did that in the last one - great

after we declare war, it is a good idea to look at your magic shop and see if there is a potion that would help you in the battle for a good cost.

check out the guild bored sober, only 5 people in it but they are high 30's. it would cost 200 to attack them.

ichargeintotheroom would only be 150 to hit.

Thought I'd give the game a try, Seeboo is the name. Being a gnome ranger is the game.

dont see any war declaration - has it been cancelled ?

i just never got any input on who to attack. i guess i will just pick one that is cheap and see what we do. i have company in town and haven't had as much time as needed to find a really good target!

we are attacking "invincible warriors" this evening! we will test their name for them. everyone please click the prep for war button above the guild chat area or else you will go into battle with decreased hit points!

invite sent seeboo! ; )

also, if you have any cheap potions in your magic shop that could help with the battle you might think about using them before tonight's guild war!

Here are the levels of our 11 opponents.

38
35
30
29
24
20
20
19
11
6
5

I'll join up in a few hours, finishing up a 9hr job currently.

Mr. Massacre 2000 (chainsaw) +19 all attributes...anyone gave something like this?

Nice rare :) Ive still only found one.

Bush Stalker's Helmet of the Bush Stalker.

"For that assertive push, through the thickest bush."

i got that one too ak, it is awesome for a long time. i used it with my jason hockey mask and felt pretty damn cool!

that is on the second server of course, got a mage on s1

The best rare I've got provides +30 to my main three stats but only gives 271 armor, which isn't a ton for a warrior.

Is getting a mount early a good Idea? I have 25 shrooms currently.

spending all 25 on the elite mount means you will grow twice as fast for two weeks.

that is actually the only thing i spend shrooms on.

Mounts are quite important. Which one you get is up to you. I think the sweet spot is the 30% steed, but some of the guys can afford the very expensive 50% one. Basically, they get twice as much thirst every day as a result.

Alright, thanks for the suggestions.

it is important to add that the double growth only happens if you are spending all of your thirst.

After thinking about how all the classes' work against each other, I'm starting to regret not picking a warrior.

Mages have a 0% evade chance, 9 equipment slots, and up to 10% damage reduction from Armor. They are the high ground in damage dealers, and the low ground in hitpoints.

Scouts have a 50% evade chance, 9 equipment slots, and up to 25% damage reduction from Armor. They are the middle ground in damage dealers, as well as in hitpoints.

Warriors have up to a 25% block chance, 10 equipment sots, and up to 50% damage reduction from armor. They are the low ground in damage dealers, and the high ground in hitpoints.

There's a clear advantage here: Warriors, due to their shield, have one more slot with which they can gain equipment attribute bonuses. They also have the most consistent damage reduction capability, yet still get an evasion (block) chance.

I'm starting to wish I'd picked one. They seem like the most potentially powerful class to me.

i started one on the second server just to try them out.

The bonus from a warrior's shield and sword combined is exactly the same as the bonus received from a wand or a bow. It's just split into two items.

Also, Armor doesn't help against mages at all. Neither does block or evade.

Warriors aren't overpowered, every class is perfectly balanced.

hi arf, welcome to cb!

Arfbargle - you're telling me that melee and shields each receive only half the regular possible attribute bonuses? I'm not seeing it.

Please send Kirimori an invite too if you have the space. Just started playing.

kirimori, it will be tomorrow sometime before we can get you in. if one of the other guilds can fit you in before then great, otherwise we will invite you to jabberwocky once we can afford the upgrade to add another character slot.

I have 110 dex on my crossbow.

An equal leveled warrior has a 49 strength sword and a 51 strength shield.

That's a far cry from both being 110 strength.

The trend carries for any other warrior I inspect around my level, so you need to look harder.

110 strength each*

I think at my level, the variation must be too great for me to get an accurate view, as I keep seeing people with horribly weak weapons and then extremely strong ones

It does appear, however, that warriors are getting smaller bonuses than the other classes, so you're probably right

Thanks for clearing that up, it just seems like one class getting an extra potential slot for attribute bonuses would make it stronger.

I still am personally feeling like a constant 50% reduction is more useful than a 50% chance evasion. I find that I'm not so much a fan of luck being such a big deciding factor in my fights.

Kirimori, invited you to snicker snack

It's interesting, I've been trying to figure out why scouts are supposed to counter warriors.

Each have a 50%+25% multiplicative damage reduction, (Scouts have a 50% evade + 25% armor, and warriors have a 25% block + 50% armor).

It also seems like weapon damage is inversely related to HP.

Scouts have a 4x constitution multiplier while Warriors have a 5x. Scout weapon damage is right around 25% more than warrior damage.

So it looks like it's evenly matched up.

I think it might be something to do with how damage increases every round. Since scouts and warriors can both heavily negate damage, battles are going to be very long, and therefore damage is going to be extremely high during the end of the fight.

Damage at the end of the fight would kill a warrior regardless of his armor, so evasions/blocks are necessary to survive. That's where the scout wins.

So you're saying the evasive property becomes the more important one as the fight goes on due to increasing damage, and that's how the scout gains its advantage?

Looks like the mage with its inability to dodge / undodgeable damage is the c-c-combo breaker here.

Mage crits are SO unfair.

Dudemus - Demigod lost because his stats aren't spec'd right.

One point into strength for him gives and increase of a little more than .2%

One point into luck gives him .07%

His luck is much too high if he wants to optimize damage.

Are the uniques only available from dungeons? =(

You can get them from the store, but it's super rare. And there's only a 33% chance they won't cost mushrooms.

Don't worry if you don't get any uniques, you can do fine without them. (Just make sure you upgrade your weapon every chance that you have)

so, in your opinion, is it better to go for the highest xp or money quests? also, is it a good strategy to use all shrooms on the elite mount?

Yeah, that's what I'm doing so far. I'm just not having a great deal of luck with finding a new weapon either! ;D

But it would be nice to get a pretty little scaling weapon so I can save my change for stats instead of bows.

Unique items don't scale, unfortunately. But they do last for at least 5+ levels.

Both exp and gold are legitimate. I do exp, but there are many successful characters that focus on gold.

YES. The elite mount is the only thing you should be spending mushrooms on.

Argh, I was under the impression that they scaled with levels. How sad T_T

I cant rely on the store for anything, so i take whatever weapon I get from quests, but concerning the elite mount - gogo!

His luck is that high because he needed to get lucky kills in the dungeon against certain minions larger than him. And it worked. ;p

arf, what is your character name on s&f?

Also, Arf, I see you're not playing CB. How did you find us? Was it from Reddit or our guild descriptions in S&F by any chance?

One more place free in Snicker Snack.

Does anyone know if you keep your thirst if you cancel a mission? >.>

Sometimes I click the wrong one and I am tempted to cancel, but it's not worthwhile if I lose my thirst. SO I am curious.

I think I'm going to cancel one intentionally tomorrow (when I have all my thirst back) to test and see.

You keep it, and the quests stay the same options. Done it many times.

I was scanning through a few guilds, and I saw your link.

I don't really do non-graphics games, but chatting on the forums is fun.

Thanks Titan!

Arfbargle - I always tend to return to this community due to the forums. I have a bad history of only playing for a couple of months, then stopping for a while.

The combat on CB reminds me of a more complex S&F, though, minus the animations.

I always skip the graphical stuff in S&F lol.

on the first server with my mage i watch it as it is over quickly. on the second server with the warrior i skip it as it goes on forever! ; )

The tavern fights just take too long, and they're almost guaranteed wins anyway. But guild wars... I watch every bit of those.

I skip tavern fights too, but I love having a graphical interface. It's much easier on the eyes. Their pictures always have little easter eggs in them, which I enjoy.


I believe that the quality of the game is shown through its interface. If the developers have the time and patience to make their game look nice, then they'll have the time and patience to keep developing and refining their game.

I don't mean to be offensive, but this game looks like a kid pieced it together in a few weeks.

However, Once I read the "Say a prayer" thread, I knew at least the forums were going to be amazing.

The interface hasn't really been updated since it's inception around 2002ish. It's been brought up a number of times, but it's a bit touchy.

On the bright side, I've had numerous coworkers walk into my office and assume I'm just reading a spreadsheet.

Especially with the old CB1 'notepad' theme. ;)

Not getting busted playing at work FTW!

Arf, what's your S&F name?

Yay, level 15 :)

Congrats Shade!

I'm changing my S&F strategy once again. I'm just dumping gold into my DX/CON stats equally, letting my gear decide which is bigger, and dividing spare change between the clan and my LUCK stat.

I'll be crossing my fingers that this isn't yet another dumb idea. ;D

Demi - Areva.

My guildies have been very helpful with showing us younglings how to build the best character as fast as possible.

I basically dump into Dex/Con, then level the other 3/donate to guild with the spare change.

Your guild has 40 members?! Holy...

nice! we probably have that many people in the three cb guilds if we can ever consolidate.

& thanks for all the input arf, we all started recently and have just been learning as we go or guessing when we aren't sure! ; )

If we end up sticking with the game, it should be interesting to see what data we accrue. The people of CB do love crunching numbers.