Lets Make CB Better! (in General)


Django November 2 2011 3:14 AM EDT

The post Demigod made really made me start thinking about the future of this game. We as a community need to help come up with ideas to make this game more attractive to others. So feel free to post suggestions that will benefit the game that you would like see. Please do not argue with others post, just post suggestions or changes to the game. This will be easy for NS or whoever to get ideas. Remember, any suggestion is better than letting the games user total to keep decreasing. Thanks for your help.

Marious [Make Steel] November 2 2011 3:30 AM EDT

As an enhancement I would like to see multiple favorites list. I find the people I do battle with changes depending if its bonus time or not. Sometimes I like to have people in my list who I have trouble beating just to see if my character is getting better. I dont want to waste BA on them when its Bonus Time. Also some times I like to split my opponents into Tank/Mage, 3 tank etc so I can test ideas.

Just a thought

Adminedyit November 2 2011 5:19 AM EDT

2 words

ROLLING BONUS

Guardian November 2 2011 5:44 AM EDT

yeah, multiple fight lists...

would be good i could have 1 that gimme max rewards, and other with clan targets only.

even thought it is not big changes at all.

QBOddBird November 2 2011 10:32 AM EDT

ROLLING BONUS

{cb1}Linguala November 2 2011 11:42 AM EDT

If it's that hard to weave other things into the code of CB-gameplay, why don't we just add more games to play which don't have anything to do with the current set-up?
I'm thinking about chess or hearts or something completely new which only NS knows how to play...

Zenai November 3 2011 2:00 PM EDT

This is another players idea but from a long time ago.

Different Armor presets for different opponents.

In case this is lost in translation or meaning: Opponent 1 Armor preset X, Opponent 2 Armor Preset Y etc. This would be an addition to the Favorites List. Reason given and honestly I agree with is that in a lot of cases my set up allows me to beat Opponent X but not Y, yet if I tweak my set up I can get Y but I then lose X. Just something to add to the dynamics of the game ;-)

Django November 3 2011 2:29 PM EDT

We have to figure out why so many people left. Is there a way to get some of those 250 players back? Why did they leave? Lack of change or repetition of the game? Do any of you still talk to people who use to play the game and if so, what would it take to get them back.

Lord Bob November 3 2011 2:47 PM EDT

Kill. The. N*B.
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AdminTitan November 3 2011 2:50 PM EDT

It's a little early to be drinking LB :)

Lord Bob November 3 2011 2:53 PM EDT

I'm at work. I can't start drinking until after 8:00 tonight. *grin*

{cb1}Linguala November 3 2011 2:59 PM EDT

I'm one of the people who was gone for a few years. And I've said it this before. The game on itself doesn't interest me. Only reason I stayed for as long as I did and now am back is for the chat again.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] November 3 2011 4:19 PM EDT

We have to figure out why so many people left.

No Changemonths.

CB got stale.

Interest dies.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] November 3 2011 4:49 PM EDT

If it's that hard to weave other things into the code of CB-gameplay, why don't we just add more games to play which don't have anything to do with the current set-up?
I'm thinking about chess or hearts or something completely new which only NS knows how to play...

i think this is one of the most practical ideas i have heard in some time.

Demigod November 3 2011 5:26 PM EDT

First, we need to change why new players don't return, then we need to focus on why vets leave. But neither problem is a mystery.

The game is clearly outdated beginning with the very first landing page, and no one has ever given it a facelift since CB1's inception in circa 2003. As I said before, updating isn't a matter of ideas (there have been plenty), it's a matter of someone actually DOING it. It's an issue of technical difficulty, sheer apathy, and possibly funding if we need an outside resource. Once the game no longer appears as a throw-back to the 90s, we'll be able to get new blood to stay long enough to understand the game.

As for vets leaving, that's obviously the lack of changes. New supporter items used to come about every six months. Last time we had new items? Very beginning of 2009. There are clearly issues with the RoBF and xBows being rather favorable. Regardless of whether or not they're OP, items should have been tweaked multiple times just to mix it up. Nada.

So, who's capable of implementing core changes to the layout, and who's capable of making changes to the items? I get it, very few people have control, and these people have lives outside of CB that prevent them from working on it. What I don't get is why the hell the ball wasn't given to someone who can get the job done. I can't shake the feeling that we've had plenty of able-minded people here who were motivated.

Lord Bob November 5 2011 3:39 PM EDT

then we need to focus on why vets leave.
I'm leaving at 6/20 for two reasons, one external, one internal:
1.) I waste far too much time on this game, and I'm a busy man. This is time that could be spent on more productive endeavors.

2.) The N*B. Seriously. I'm not kidding this time. I'm tired of the unfair advantage it gives new teams and discourages long-term investments. There seems to be no replacement in sight, despite the pleas and cries of the vast majority of the community. I know Jon is out doing his own thing, and that's understandable, but someone in his place should be empowered to implement an alternative. It's not going to happen, so I'm done waiting. If I'm wrong and something is unveiled before I hit 6/20, I'll strongly consider staying. But as of now, I'm closing down.

joshu145 [vaxorak's] November 5 2011 3:45 PM EDT

automatic adversary switching. it gets annoying having to manually change the character your fighting every time you defeat them this way you could fight more rapidly

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] November 5 2011 3:47 PM EDT

That is one of the supporter benefits joshu.

joshu145 [vaxorak's] November 5 2011 3:48 PM EDT

oh...

Demigod November 5 2011 4:25 PM EDT

But Joshu brings up a valid point -- something that basic really shouldn't be supporter-only. It feels more like punishing someone for not being a supporter than rewarding someone who is.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] November 5 2011 4:28 PM EDT

Implementing that feature on the standard list would be a bad idea.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] November 5 2011 4:30 PM EDT

i remember it being on the standard list but being turned off for that list at some point.

Quyen November 5 2011 4:32 PM EDT

dang, thats the only reason iwanted supportership :p

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] November 5 2011 4:34 PM EDT

well it was on the standard list but only for six days:

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002Ngu

QBOddBird November 5 2011 4:35 PM EDT

I think supportership is fine as it is.

Like Lord Bob said, the N*B is a horribly retarded system. Everybody knows it. All the players want it changed. Nobody in a position to do anything about it cares.

I've left the game and come back many times, and every time I leave it is because I am discouraged. Nothing game-wise happens here anymore. Every once in a while, somebody breaks a new milestone.

I pretty much come here just for the community - which I love! - but if there were a different forum I could talk to you guys on, I'd probably never touch CB again.

Lord Bob November 5 2011 4:57 PM EDT

but if there were a different forum
An updated, feature rich forum without a restrictive spell check would work wonders as well.

Zenai November 5 2011 5:01 PM EDT

Here's a Compendium of Ideas:


http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=003DZP


There is of course so many more but since I am on my phone this is what you get ;-P
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