Congrats, tourney, you broke BA rates [FIXED] (in General)


Sickone April 5 2012 6:37 AM EDT

Minion Power Rating

Tournament 85
(T85) I call hax (9,818,409)
(T85) Boo (8,906,446)
(T85) Shadow (8,814,599)
(T85) Gohan (8,577,548)
(T85) Piper 1 (8,501,633)

Gondor
The Immortals (8,177,290)
Incompetent Misfits (8,167,612)
King of Pain (7,818,558)
Anomander Rake (7,563,505)
Epitaph (7,495,441)

Result ?
Instead of people above 4.9 mil MPR getting in 6/20, it's now only people of almost 5.9 mil MPR getting into 6/20.

My MPR ?
5.6+ mil.
Where am I now ?
"7 additional BA are supplied every 20 minutes".
In 7/20, of course. Sigh.

...

At least I assume//hope that when the tourney is over and the chars are retired, things will get back to normal.
Or, will they ?

Sickone April 5 2012 6:42 AM EDT

Obviously, it will only get worse as the tourney continues.
If any of them make it a bit over 13.6 mil MPR, there will be nobody left in 6/20 anymore (except some tourney chars).

Sickone April 5 2012 6:43 AM EDT

I probably should have said "when", not "if".

QBJohnnywas April 5 2012 7:08 AM EDT

Lord Bob cant retire now!

moskel April 5 2012 7:50 AM EDT

3118 BA left at 9.3M MPR... wonder if everyone can end up in 10/20! ;). Good catch to exclude tourney chars from the nightly calc...

AdminNightStrike April 5 2012 8:43 AM EDT

So I'm guessing that the bug here is that tourney characters affect the BA rates of non-tourney characters. If that is the case, it shouldn't be terribly hard to fix.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] April 5 2012 8:45 AM EDT

Yes that's the problem

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] April 5 2012 10:34 AM EDT

Very sorry, and thanks for posting!

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] April 5 2012 11:11 AM EDT

I'm knockin everyone out of 6/20.. thats my new goal.

BestNUB April 5 2012 11:33 AM EDT

Is this necessarily a bad thing? :P

QBRanger April 5 2012 11:34 AM EDT

Is this necessarily a bad thing? :P

Yes

stabilo April 5 2012 11:39 AM EDT

those having a tourney char won't get knocked out!

stabilo April 5 2012 11:40 AM EDT

.. maybe we should have called it: 'free BA for top 100 chars', then they wouldn't cry ;)

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] April 5 2012 12:10 PM EDT

They would get more BA but the 7/10 range doesn't give immunity to negative challenege bonus like the 6/10 does.

Josh [Cult of the Valaraukar] April 5 2012 12:11 PM EDT

Yup. I was 8/20 since ~1.2mil and now I'm 9/20 again at 1.45mil.

QBJohnnywas April 5 2012 1:05 PM EDT

Additionally I have a NCB with a refresh rate of 9. I'm only getting 7 right now, as my tourney char is on 7. Tourney has broken my NCB!!!!

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] April 5 2012 1:24 PM EDT

Hasn't it improved your NCB? You now hit more BA, and your BA gives more EXP per use. The only way it could have broken your NCB is if you have been buying BA, and it is now too pricey.

QBJohnnywas April 5 2012 1:30 PM EDT

No, it's probably the same situation as having a large character when you start your NCB. You need to retire the larger char otherwise it mucks up your NCB BA. I'm not getting the 7 refresh XP amounts, just getting 7 of my 9 refresh...

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] April 5 2012 1:32 PM EDT

No, it's probably the same situation as having a large character when you start your NCB.

Yup :(

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] April 5 2012 1:32 PM EDT

Ah well that is very sad indeed :(

Josh [Cult of the Valaraukar] April 5 2012 1:49 PM EDT

Thats unfortunate Johnny but if it means I can go back to beating you soon, keep your tourney character active. :)

Lord Bob April 5 2012 2:45 PM EDT

Lord Bob cant retire now!
What the fudge.

Somebody fix this.

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] April 5 2012 3:24 PM EDT

Don't fix it! Keep LB captive foreverrrr :D

BestNUB April 5 2012 3:24 PM EDT

Am I the only person who loves this? :)

QBRanger April 5 2012 3:32 PM EDT

Perhaps since it is hosing every else over.

Phoenix [The Forgehood] April 5 2012 5:50 PM EDT

more ba for forging. :D
Keep it the way it is! >:D

QBRanger April 5 2012 5:56 PM EDT

Is forging efficiency effected by BA regeneration rate?

Does a BA from 10 regeneration give the same benefits to forging as a BA from a 6 regeneration character?

Eliteofdelete [Battle Royale] April 5 2012 6:16 PM EDT

I think forging is influenced on how much BA costs. So it is mainly determined by MPR. If the BA price stays the same as you go down in level then you will have more BA to forge with so you could see a bonus to forging.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] April 5 2012 6:38 PM EDT

Is forging efficiency effected by BA regeneration rate?

It's just like fighting. Whenever you move up a BA rate, it increases accordingly.

Sickone April 5 2012 9:55 PM EDT

Am I the only person who loves this? :)

Probably.

AdminNightStrike April 5 2012 10:24 PM EDT

Trying a fix, going to restart the server

AdminNightStrike April 5 2012 10:26 PM EDT

Please report back on ba regen thresholds.

There's still a bug if you have a tournament character as your biggest character, but at least the site wide issue should be fixed.

Please confirm.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] April 5 2012 10:28 PM EDT

Confirming it's fixed

Phoenix [The Forgehood] April 6 2012 2:56 AM EDT

I'm still at 7/20. ba purchase price is still the lower amount

BestNUB April 6 2012 2:59 AM EDT

You're right on the border of AA's MPR *.6. Depending on what his VPR is, the result might end up being 7/20. Too close to tell.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] April 6 2012 3:03 AM EDT

You are right under the requirements for 6/20 now.. the edge just went up tonight. Lord Bob is still in 6/20 at 4,919,853 MPR... looks like he's going to have to burn some more to keep it there ;)

QBJohnnywas April 6 2012 3:11 AM EDT

Um, have challenge bonuses gone for tourney chars? Or is it just me?

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] April 6 2012 3:19 AM EDT

Most T-scores are now under where anyone can get a bonus, unless you can fight someone with a higher score. I cant test it cause my PR is like 17m

QBJohnnywas April 6 2012 3:26 AM EDT

My score is still under 10 mill. I was getting challenge bonuses before the 'fix'. I'm not even seeing negative challenge bonus. There is just...nothing.

Xenogard [Chaotic Serenity] April 6 2012 3:30 AM EDT

No one you are fighting right now has a T-score that is over 9m. Plus your in 6/20 so you wouldn't see a negative bonus anyway.

QBJohnnywas April 6 2012 3:31 AM EDT

Ah, only just went into 6 ba. Was 7 when I started clicking this morning!

Sickone April 6 2012 3:33 AM EDT

My score is still under 10 mill.
Your score doesn't matter, only the score of your opponents and your own PR.
Your PR is 9,920,986. You are not fighting anybody with a a T85 score above that. So, no bonus.
And you're not getting any penalties because you got dumped back in 6/20 :)

Sickone April 6 2012 3:33 AM EDT

Ninja'd by Johnnywas :p

Sickone April 6 2012 3:34 AM EDT

Gah, I meant Xenogard. I need to get my coffee or go back to sleep.

Sickone April 6 2012 3:35 AM EDT

We need, like, a 15 minutes grace period to edit our own forum posts or something like that.

Sickone April 6 2012 3:36 AM EDT

So we don't end up posting like this.

AdminNightStrike April 6 2012 10:24 AM EDT

That eye is freaking me out

Quyen April 6 2012 11:27 AM EDT

7 million MPR now? :p

Waldo April 6 2012 11:36 AM EDT

Just for the record I can confirm that bonuses are still active for T char. I still get a small bonus from (T85) Gohan

Phoenix [The Forgehood] April 6 2012 12:07 PM EDT

7/20 already woah. Didn't quite expect that.
I guess it means I'm gonna need a bigger character. hmm...

Sickone April 6 2012 4:10 PM EDT

That eye is freaking me out
The eyes sees all. The eye knows all. It is actually my own eye >:)

Quyen April 7 2012 10:23 AM EDT

I believe xeno already kicked everyone into 7/20.. :O

Quyen April 7 2012 10:24 AM EDT

forgot to say: if this bug was still working.. sorry :P
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