Amulet of Junction (in General)

DoS March 7 2009 1:28 AM EST

Bonds wearer's abilitys to familiar

Sweet :D

BeAsT-MoDe March 7 2009 1:29 AM EST

really is

TheHatchetman March 7 2009 1:31 AM EST

abilities as in UC for Hal and BL for Jiggy? o.O

DoS March 7 2009 1:31 AM EST

Now you can have a skill, instead of junction, going with your familiar.

DoS March 7 2009 1:34 AM EST

I would think the ability of the items rather than the skill's ability. I wonder what the point of upgrading it will be, maybe just small AC?

BadFish March 7 2009 2:00 AM EST

Junctioned familiars are already the overpowered flavor of the month. No need to make it even more unbalanced.

three4thsforsaken March 7 2009 2:01 AM EST

i don't think people realize it's in the special store and isn't just a suggestion.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] March 7 2009 2:01 AM EST

/me slaps forehead.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] March 7 2009 2:02 AM EST

You cant have 2 Amulets so it actually doesn't help out mage familiars that much.

QBOddBird March 7 2009 2:04 AM EST

But for ToJ and for Hal..this is incredible.

QBOddBird March 7 2009 2:05 AM EST

heh, Z has one.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- March 7 2009 2:08 AM EST

This is horrible, why are we now giving boosts to the most overpowered strat in the game (junctioned hals)

Give me a break

/end rant

three4thsforsaken March 7 2009 2:09 AM EST

most overpowered? Can't see that.

QBOddBird March 7 2009 2:10 AM EST

Give us a break!

If you're going to rant, give us more content than that.

DoS March 7 2009 2:10 AM EST

Is it worth sacrificing the HP gained from the AoF AS deal?

Lochnivar March 7 2009 2:16 AM EST

not to mention the DD boost from a junctioned AoF.... this is choice, not a buff

TheHatchetman March 7 2009 2:22 AM EST

Your Noldorins and Belegs are not "abilities"... Bloodlust, Evasion, and UC, however, are.. ^_^

blackshadowshade March 7 2009 2:24 AM EST

Wow, bloodlusted Jiggy, here it comes!

QBOddBird March 7 2009 2:26 AM EST

oh wow I didn't think about that, kickbutt!!

three4thsforsaken March 7 2009 2:33 AM EST

but by that definition, by training enchantments it gives the familiar the "ability" to cast the same enchantments, hence doubling the effect.

TheHatchetman March 7 2009 2:34 AM EST

great! Another DM buff!! >:(

Andy March 7 2009 5:44 AM EST

I didn't notice a difference when I used an AoJ and train BL... The damage didn't really increase... Does BL get junctioned over? If my minion dies does this effect stop?

SuperHD March 7 2009 6:31 AM EST

i would prefer an amulet of farming which when put it on, it let you attack the same opponent more than 1 time per 30 seconds..hahaha

but concerning the amulet of junction, i totally agree with you TheHatchetman[158.3] too bad this will buff DM... but the AoJ seem fun, i cant wait to try it !

QBJohnnywas March 7 2009 6:34 AM EST

On the notes on the item it says not upgradeable. Jon's is a +5. Is the one you buy upgradeable?

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] March 7 2009 6:36 AM EST

Vague description, no changelog post, seems familiar ;) Is there a precedent on the definition of the word ability here?

I'd wait for the changelog post before drawing any conclusions, unless someone with one can enlighten us as to its effect.

Andy March 7 2009 6:38 AM EST

The AoJ is non-upgradeable in the blacksmith and forge...

winner winner March 7 2009 6:59 AM EST

So the AoJ lets you have a skill on your familiar and cast a ED/EO twice?

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 7 2009 7:13 AM EST

Another item that I can't use.

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 7 2009 7:18 AM EST

(That was just a joke, by-the-way.)
BL/Jiggy. Sweet.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 7 2009 7:30 AM EST

This is gonna be insane :/

QBRanger March 7 2009 7:35 AM EST

I would much rather have the extra HP from the AoF over the free junction.

However, I would wait to see all its effects.

winner winner March 7 2009 10:20 AM EST

Is the AoJ just in the special items store or is it possible to get one for $6?

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 7 2009 11:06 AM EST

AoF + Familiar say bye bye

I'm betting Junction is no longer a skill.

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] March 7 2009 11:47 AM EST

Personally I think it gives a base Junction or a boost to Junction already in place therefore freeing up some Exp for other things. I have not seen any other effects as of yet but of course I am not a pro in the New Items Testing Department :)

QBRanger March 7 2009 1:01 PM EST

It certainly at this point does not give junction 1.0.

I tested my AoF vs the AoJ and my junction was .69 with the AoJ.

My strength on my HF went from just over 2M to 1.5M in battle.

So right now I am at a loss on what this amulet does.

And given it is not upgradeable, I really am clueless.

Steve G March 7 2009 1:03 PM EST

clearly jons is +5, perhaps hes just denied the ability to upgrade it until its done being balanced?

Lochnivar March 7 2009 1:13 PM EST

having not experimented with one I'm going to rely on my reading skills:
"Bonds wearer's abilitys to familiar"

ie: tat holder trains evasion, adds AoJ and le voila, familiar has evasion...

QBOddBird March 7 2009 1:16 PM EST

Given that Jon never really officially released it or anything, how much you wanna bet he's still experimenting with it and you're not actually supposed to have yours yet? :P

QBRanger March 7 2009 1:20 PM EST

If we were not supposed to have it, why offer it now in the store?

But, if it only gives skills trained to the familiar and not effects of items like the junction skill, why would anyone use it instead of the AoF?

All DD familiars get a massive bonus from using NSC/AG and a HOC via junction. Also, do not forget the bonus HP from AS. And the bonus to DD level. This far outweighs any benefit from evasion.

A HF gets the HoC and bonus HP from AS. Also increased damage with BG, more dex from EBs or evasion from DBs.

Perhaps using BL on the JKF is nice, however, I would prefer to use junction and get the benefits of HGs and the HP boost from AS.

True, not all characters using a familiar use AS, however, most do.

I certainly hope this is not another item that is for a very specific strategy and is more useful then the BoE.

I guess we have to wait for Jon's official announcement on it.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] March 7 2009 2:17 PM EST

I guess it's an oversight with the new store, and the introduction of Supporter items.

A little loop hole that lets us get our hands on one before it's been tested/finalised.

three4thsforsaken March 7 2009 2:57 PM EST

Even as a familiar user, I'm starting to feel that familiars are getting too much versatility. What I really want is an item that actually gives to the actual minion equipped. Something new that synergizes with the ToA, RoS or RoBF instead of a familiar.

Give non-familiar tattoo people a bone. Cause so far there is very little that benefits the actual minion possessing a non familiar tattoo, at least not in the same way junction helps out familiars.

Soul Eater March 7 2009 5:21 PM EST

I want more info!!!

QBRanger March 7 2009 5:29 PM EST

Bonds wearer's abilitys to familiar

Let us at least hope things get spelled correctly so she who shall not be named does not have a coronary.

Unappreciated Misnomer March 7 2009 8:07 PM EST

do you think something is going to change with trained skills? :O

QBRanger March 8 2009 2:28 PM EDT

No news yet. Seems longer then any supporter item yet.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 8 2009 3:03 PM EDT

i can't wait to find out either! what could we do to force jon's presence today? ; )

Soul Eater March 9 2009 1:30 PM EDT

I want more info on this item I am honestly thinking about buying it. But I want more info first.

QBRanger March 10 2009 7:22 PM EDT

Hopefully sometime soon we can get information on it.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] March 12 2009 11:44 PM EDT

Delivered to you (view all) (view all non-system)
From: system Sent: 11:38 PM EDT Delivered: 11:40 PM EDT
Untrained Junction on The Rune of Retribution for 961584 exp at no penalty.
From: system Sent: 11:38 PM EDT Delivered: 11:40 PM EDT
Untrained Junction on Farmboy for 17019120 exp at no penalty.
From: system Sent: 11:38 PM EDT Delivered: 11:40 PM EDT
Untrained Junction on novice for 297960 exp at no penalty.

I win... err I lose
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