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Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 2 2009 12:05 PM EDT


FuerGrissa ost Drauka Created May 02, 2009

PR / MPR : 1,649,783 / 1,101,248 Max tattoo : 2,130,356


Not bad for a months worth of work :)

three4thsforsaken June 2 2009 12:05 PM EDT

quite good actually :D

congrats

QBRanger June 2 2009 12:15 PM EDT

Quite impressive.

You still getting 100% challenge bonuses?

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 2 2009 12:20 PM EDT

All but the last 2 on my fight list. I'm still battling it out with Demigod, Emotion, Xanthan, Jiraiya and DoS. I'm really enjoying the competition!

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 2 2009 12:22 PM EDT

Xanthan = Messbrutal I'm so used to naming the Chars rather than the players.........lol

DoS June 2 2009 12:31 PM EDT

Good job :)

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 2 2009 12:51 PM EDT

So you got 1.1M MPR in one month, and you have 5 months left, that means your total MPR should be 1.1 + 5(1.1) = 6.6M MPR. Woah, that's awesome ;P.

QBRanger June 2 2009 1:20 PM EDT

Art,

Typically growth slows down about 1.3M MPR as finding 100% CB becomes more and more difficult.

At 2M+ MPR it is downright impossible to find that CB.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 2 2009 1:25 PM EDT

I know, I know, that's what my wink was for ;).

QBOddBird June 2 2009 1:25 PM EDT

Indeed. But if he keeps up at this rate...
1.1+.9+.6+.6+.6+.6

4.3M MPR!

That would be pretty good, IMO.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 2 2009 1:30 PM EDT

Speed slows down a lot more than that OB. My guess is between 3.5 and 3.9M. Which is still very impressive.

QBOddBird June 2 2009 1:31 PM EDT

Oh? I figured with 0% challenge bonus you would be growing at a half rate...it's worse than that?

QBOddBird June 2 2009 1:31 PM EDT

i.e. I thought with 100% challenge bonus you grew 100% faster, like the N*B. :P

Cube June 2 2009 1:32 PM EDT

I think OB's numbers make sense.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 2 2009 1:34 PM EDT

Nah, because not only do you lose that, you lose the tons of growth he got in the first week from the 1600BA. Also, MPR doesn't grow lineally, so not only do you gain less exp, it also affects your MPR less. I'm basing my guess of Dudemus's NCB run, and Zenai's slightly larger NCB bonus.

Cube June 2 2009 1:37 PM EDT

Dudemus was at hardly 3/4ths of this though after a month. Well whatever we'll see what happens. Good luck Zenai.

QBOddBird June 2 2009 1:38 PM EDT

Good point, that first 1600 BA can give you a 150k MPR boost.

I don't know how the MPR growth scales...still, seems like he ought to be able to hit 4M MPR if he keeps this rate up.

I'll be rootin' for ya, Z :)

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 2 2009 1:42 PM EDT

Dudemus also finished at 3.2M, that's not where near 4.3M.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 2 2009 1:42 PM EDT

no* where

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] June 2 2009 1:45 PM EDT

i kept weekly mpr's rather than monthly and my first month was between two weeks. four days after the month mark i was at 856,716 mpr. ; )

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 2 2009 1:51 PM EDT

I have a full record of my growth I will be posting it at the End of my NCB. I will Probably need help to Clean it up and make it look good though.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] June 2 2009 1:57 PM EDT

google docs makes it real easy using their spreadsheet tool.

are you buying ba? hitting most of your natural regen?

Zenai [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 2 2009 2:08 PM EDT

Overall I have only missed about 2 full days of regular Regen BA I have hit everything else.

DoS June 2 2009 5:57 PM EDT

Typically growth slows down about 1.3M MPR as finding 100% CB becomes more and more difficult.

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That's the wall I hit recently.

Burton June 2 2009 6:07 PM EDT

''All but the last 2 on my fight list. I'm still battling it out with Demigod, Emotion, Xanthan, Jiraiya and DoS. I'm really enjoying the competition!'

I'll be in that list very soon too, let's hope. :)
About 900k MPR in my first month, not sure if that's good or not.

Sickone June 2 2009 10:08 PM EDT

"Also, MPR doesn't grow lineally"

MPR _does_ grow roughly linearly as long as the average Score/PR of your targets keeps increasing at a rate similar to your own PR/MPR. It's only because of the fact you usually can no longer find proper targets to fight in order to maintain a constant challenge bonus that the linearity of that growth is not more obvious.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 2 2009 10:42 PM EDT

Sickone: Why don't you compare the effect of adding 1M exp to a 1M MPR character to adding 1M exp to a 4M MPR character, no wait, I'll do it for you.

EXP = MPR*(1.4307*(MPR^0.2501))
MPR = (EXP/1.4307)^(1/1.2501)

EXP = 1,000,000 (1.4307 x (1,000,000 ^ .2501))
EXP at 1M MPR = 45,305,256

Add 1M exp to that and you get: 46,305,256, now put that back in the other equation.
MPR = (46,305,256/1.4307)^(1/1.2501)
New MPR = 1,017,618

Now for 4M MPR

EXP = 4M(1.4307 x (4M ^ .2501))
EXP at 4M MPR = 256,320,754

Add 1M exp to that and you get: 257,305,256, now put that back in the other equation.
MPR = (257,320,754/1.4307) ^ (1/1.2501)
New MPR = 4,012,478

12,478/17,618 = 70.8%, so exp affects your MPR by 29% less when you are at 4M MPR, than when you are at 1M MPR. I would say that is quite noticeable.

Cube June 2 2009 10:49 PM EDT

But you also get higher base rewards.

Sickone June 3 2009 4:12 AM EDT

"Sickone: Why don't you compare the effect of adding 1M exp to a 1M MPR character to adding 1M exp to a 4M MPR character, no wait, I'll do it for you."

Like Cube already pointed out, you also get higher base rewards to compensate for that.


Also, considering this NCB uses a _VERY_ familiar strategy (heh heh heh) while also using a larger bow (boo, he took my #10 ELB spot, heh) and also a larger ToA (it should last him until around 2.5 mil MPR) I can tell you that he will still find pretty high challenge bonuses (close to 100%) at least until 1.4-1.6 mil MPR, and if he pumps even more cash into the x of the weapons, probably find some high challenge bonuses (around 50%) even closer to 2.4-2.6 mil MPR.

A pretty conservative estimate (if he keeps fighting as much as he did until now, and keeps re-searching better targets constantly, and lightly adjusts his strategy as he grows up) will put his final MPR at around 4 mil, IMO.
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