T39: GL's UC Bonanza (in Contests)


Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 21 2009 11:11 PM EDT

This tournament will be funded with prizes donated by GL! The premise is also his idea.

Rules:
Single Minion, must use UC, no ranged weapons (DD included) after the first week. After the first week, you may not fight any targets other than those in your bracket.

During the first week, you may use any equipment. Once the bracket begins, you may not use any rare equipment.

BA cap of 1500 for the first week (you must enforce this yourself) and a total cap of 1600.


How to win:
For the first week of the tournament anything goes, as long as you are using a single minion with UC. After the first week, the tournament will become a bracket. Anyone within 60% of the top MPR will be given a spot in the bracket, and from there one round will occur per day.

Each player will have to fight their target three times. Only a win counts for you, everything else counts as a loss. Whoever wins the majority of the 6 battles will go to the next round.

Prizes:


1: 250k
A Trollskin Armor [22] (+32)
A Menelvegorian Cape [0] (+2)
A Pair of Helm's Gauntlets [4] (+11)
An Enforcer's Crossbow [4x10] (+10)
An Amulet of Focus [0] (+11)
A Pair of Elven Boots [10] (+21)
A Helm of Ecthelion [6] (+12)
A Shield of Capacity [0] (+20)


2: An Amulet of AC [0] (+12)
An Adamantite Cuirass [40] (+4)
An Assassin's Crossbow [4x1] (+0)
An Elven Hauberk [24] (+16)
A Mage Shield [0] (+36)
A Helm of Durin [9] (+2)
A Rune of Enlightenment lvl 20


3: A Mithril Cuirass [36] (+1)
A Pair of Gloves of Mercy [0] (+4)
A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 1,148,146
A Mithril Shield [22] (+28)


4: A Mithril Cuirass [36]
A Pair of Gloves of Mercy [0] (+4)
A Katana [74x1] (+0)
A Lesser Tattoo of Endurance lvl 20




When: Beginning on the 27th, ending the 11th or sooner.



Round 1
The Bouncer
vs
Tiger Knee


Rental Company PWN II
vs
TourneyTick 4


[T39]LetMeWin
vs
T39Draco


brawler
vs
[T39] Slapmedo


Round 2

The Bouncer
vs
Rental Company PWN II


[T39]LetMeWin
vs
brawler


Round 3
The Bouncer
vs
brawler

Rawr June 21 2009 11:13 PM EDT

nice

Zenai June 21 2009 11:15 PM EDT

Interesting

Adios Muchachos June 21 2009 11:15 PM EDT

tats allowed? (lessers of course)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 21 2009 11:15 PM EDT

You will start with all 1600 BA, to make it easier to keep track of how much you have spent.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 21 2009 11:16 PM EDT

Updated post with info on what you can equip, lesser tattoos counted as rare for the purposes of this tourney.

Burton June 21 2009 11:17 PM EDT

Sounds like fun.

DoS [Demon Forging] June 21 2009 11:24 PM EDT

I'm in ;)

FailBoat[SG] June 22 2009 12:13 AM EDT

So a UC Brawl... Sounds fun!

FailBoat[SG] June 22 2009 12:15 AM EDT

Are EO/EDs allowed in this tourney as well as UC?

Cube June 22 2009 12:30 AM EDT

'For the first week of the tournament anything goes, as long as you are using a single minion with UC.'

Soul Eater June 22 2009 12:58 AM EDT

I think I'll pass because I just don't have the time anymore.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 22 2009 1:14 AM EDT

You can use EO/ED during the bracket portion.

Soul Eater: 1500 BA doesn't take that much time to burn! :)

Soul Eater June 22 2009 1:18 AM EDT

But I also have a clan character and I have a full time job and not a lot of time.

AdminShade June 22 2009 1:26 AM EDT

Soul Eater, 1500 BA could take you 15 minutes or 150 ;)

I will give it a try. :)

Newlin [SeeD] June 22 2009 1:50 AM EDT

I have a question. Since you can only use the lesser tats for 1 week, would it be legal to loan them out for free for that one week period? I am assuming it would be, but I just like to be sure of myself.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 22 2009 1:52 AM EDT

The only way for items to get to a tourney character are via auctions and stores, so you wouldn't be able to loan them or rent them to anyone.

DoS [Demon Forging] June 22 2009 1:52 AM EDT

You can't transfer anything to tournament characters.

Newlin [SeeD] June 22 2009 1:53 AM EDT

Right...forgot about that :)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 22 2009 3:58 AM EDT

The King of the Carnage Fist Tournament 1: Enter the Blender. ;)

Consider the first week the obligatory 'training' period of Martial Arts flicks. Wax on, Wax off.

Then the competition begins!

Round 1, Fight!

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 22 2009 4:02 AM EDT

I will join and may i win a decent prize ;)

Angel of Death [Hell Blenders] June 22 2009 6:30 AM EDT

so you get 1600 ba when the tournement start, the limited is 1500 for the first week, is that then the 1600 + 1500 or is the ba you get for the whole tourney?

(0.0) [SeeD] June 22 2009 7:27 AM EDT

Slayer, what do you mean ending 11th or sooner?

(0.0) [SeeD] June 22 2009 7:45 AM EDT

So basically, if there aren't a lot of people with 60% of the top MPR, then the tournament ends sooner. Right?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 22 2009 9:47 AM EDT

AoD - You get 1600, that is the cap for the whole tournament. You use 1500 the first week (you training period) and then the remaining 100 is for use in the bracket.

And yes, the tournament ends when the bracket is finished.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] June 22 2009 10:00 AM EDT

i hope we have a pretty massive xp bonus as uc is hard to get to the first few skill-ups down low.

Soul Eater June 22 2009 1:35 PM EDT

Actually on second thought I think I will try and make time I do need some of those items on that list.

ceslis June 22 2009 1:37 PM EDT

Sounds like fun I think this will be my first tournament =)

(0.0) [SeeD] June 22 2009 2:19 PM EDT

I'm leaving on the 7th so I'm going to have to work harder to make sure a lot of people aren't 60% of top MPR

Newlin [SeeD] June 22 2009 3:59 PM EDT

I am leaving on the 8th myself, but I think I will give it a go anyhow.

Admiralkiller June 23 2009 1:16 AM EDT

Darn tootin I will play!

KrossOut June 23 2009 2:21 PM EDT

can NUB's join? cause i wanna try =D

AdminShade June 23 2009 2:23 PM EDT

of course!

QBRanger June 23 2009 2:58 PM EDT

So can someone use all FB with a base UC?

Admiralkiller June 23 2009 3:16 PM EDT

I was thinking that too ranger especially since its a one man team.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] June 23 2009 3:21 PM EDT

I would think they would be able to for the first week but not for the actual competition part.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 23 2009 3:27 PM EDT

DD doesn't count as a range weapon, does it?

QBRanger June 23 2009 3:30 PM EDT

Perhaps we need to await on Slayer to clarify the use of DD spells.

I personally believe ranged weapons to be those you have to equip, like bows, slings and crossbows.

But let us see what Slayer states.

QBJohnnywas June 23 2009 3:34 PM EDT

Slayer will need to confirm for sure, but having chatted with GL about this tourney last week I know the intention for it was a single minion UC tourney, which means UC minion, not fake UC FB minion tourney.

QBRanger June 23 2009 3:37 PM EDT

Q:

Having not played with UC, can a minion from the beginning really use UC and win? Does it not take a lot of xp to get it where it can do some real damage, given the fact you cannot use a CGI or HG.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 23 2009 3:44 PM EDT

I'm pretty sure whoever has the highest MPR will win the second week bracket since there aren't any variations on the strategy that you can use.

QBJohnnywas June 23 2009 3:47 PM EDT

UC versus UC, you could conceivably train a UC to a higher proportion of your total MPR and have a bigger weapon than the highest MPR, who may have invested more in HP for instance. And having a higher UC could mean the bigger MPR might not be able to hit you as much as they would like...

QBRanger June 23 2009 3:53 PM EDT

I understand SK's point.

Since all the minions wil essentially be the same, there is very little that strategy can do.

Yes, one can have a large EC as well as UC, but with 1 minion, there is little one can effectively do.

And all ones money will likely be spent on non rare armor.

In most scenarios the largest MPR will win.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 23 2009 4:00 PM EDT

JW, you can't use a weapon with UC and it'll be hard to get UC very high without any rares.

QBJohnnywas June 23 2009 4:07 PM EDT

I was talking about the UC weapon.

QBRanger June 23 2009 4:10 PM EDT

Having not played with UC before, can anyone give an estimate of what 25k strength with 25k levels in UC would give for damage?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 23 2009 4:50 PM EDT

You can use magic during the first week, but not during the bracket

QBRanger June 23 2009 4:54 PM EDT

Does Ethereal Chains fall into the magic category?

Newlin [SeeD] June 23 2009 4:56 PM EDT

You can use EO/ED during the bracket portion.

Soul Eater: 1500 BA doesn't take that much time to burn! :)

--Admin{CB1}Slayer333, June 22 1:14 AM EDT

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 23 2009 5:37 PM EDT

Magic referring to DD spells, EO/ED are fine

(0.0) [SeeD] June 23 2009 5:51 PM EDT

Ranger, 25k ST and UC would not be doing much damage.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 23 2009 5:55 PM EDT

Slayer, what if each person wins 3 battles?

QBRanger June 23 2009 5:59 PM EDT

What happens if the battles are all stalemates?

Without rares, could this not be a possibility?

DoS [Demon Forging] June 23 2009 6:00 PM EDT

Lol, okay so the first week is going to be a bunch of fake UC teams.. then when the second week starts, everyone is going to untrain and have enough money for those rare armors that will boost their UC up a bit. :)

Or that is how I could see it going.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 23 2009 6:01 PM EDT

DoS, no rares are allowed after the first week.

DoS [Demon Forging] June 23 2009 6:02 PM EDT

Woops, haha.. hmm.. then I'm not sure where the money is going to go.

FailBoat[SG] June 23 2009 6:11 PM EDT

Since the Cloak is the only item that won't lower the damage by UC, in that.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 23 2009 9:04 PM EDT

The bonus is pretty large, I figure everyone will have a decent level of UC.

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] June 23 2009 9:07 PM EDT

good news, thanks!

QBRanger June 23 2009 9:21 PM EDT

It seems money is not needed for this tourney.

th00p June 24 2009 2:01 AM EDT

A tourney I actually would have been interested in :)

Good luck to all!

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 24 2009 3:33 AM EDT

"I'm pretty sure whoever has the highest MPR will win the second week bracket since there aren't any variations on the strategy that you can use."

Off the top of my head;

Base UC, Large EC
Large UC and STR
Large HP, Base UC, GA
Large UC, Large Dex
Someone with DM to counter GA.

I'm sure there are others.

I'm not too worried that money won't be a factor in this tournament. If you really wanted to go nuts, splurge it all in the first week.

QBJohnnywas June 24 2009 4:21 AM EDT

"QBRanger June 23 9:21 PM EDT

It seems money is not needed for this tourney. "

Monks don't need money. :)

dup June 24 2009 4:58 AM EDT

i hope GI's and HGs are banned from this..whoever gets one/them wins

dup June 24 2009 4:59 AM EDT

nevermind..i just learned how to read apparently

(0.0) [SeeD] June 24 2009 7:44 AM EDT

The latest this will possibly end is the 8th which would take 32 people in the brackets.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 27 2009 12:02 PM EDT

I can't fight with my Tournament character and I also have 1600 starting BA.

QBRanger June 27 2009 12:09 PM EDT

does not give me opponents to fight either.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 27 2009 12:10 PM EDT

I like starting out with the BA cap, we should do this for future tournaments.

QBRanger June 27 2009 12:13 PM EDT

Tournament bonus 2400%

(0.0) [SeeD] June 27 2009 12:27 PM EDT

I still can't fight.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 27 2009 12:29 PM EDT

(All the opponents in your fight list are comatose. Adjust with Higher or Lower.)

No opponents showing up :S

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 27 2009 12:31 PM EDT

I just get an error. It like locks up my left window. The error I get is "Unable to connect to CB." Even after I switch back to my main character my left window is still locked up.

QBRanger June 27 2009 12:34 PM EDT

There are other ways to pick opponents to fight.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 27 2009 12:35 PM EDT

Is DD allowed in the first week?

QBRanger June 27 2009 12:36 PM EDT


Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 23 4:50 PM EDT
You can use magic during the first week, but not during the bracket

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 27 2009 12:38 PM EDT

K, thanks Ranger.

Underage Drinking June 27 2009 12:42 PM EDT

ah! i cant play this one, i have too many characters tied up :S

Soul Eater June 27 2009 1:21 PM EDT

Still won't let me fight.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 27 2009 2:34 PM EDT

are normal tattoos allowed?

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 27 2009 2:34 PM EDT

The following items could not be assigned:

* A Whip [9x1] (+0) (tournament characters may not sell valuable items directly to the store. use auctions instead)

Other assignments, if any, succeeded.

This is funny to me. :|

QBRanger June 27 2009 2:35 PM EDT

During the first week, you may use any equipment. Once the bracket begins, you may not use any rare equipment.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 27 2009 5:36 PM EDT

I've entered my own Tournament. ;)

Come on guys, enroll now! Fight hard to beat me and stop me winning some of my gear back!

DoS [Demon Forging] June 27 2009 5:45 PM EDT

I'll be entering tomorrow, today I am swamped busy :\

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 27 2009 6:16 PM EDT

Because I'm an utter Tourny noob, can we use Rental items?

(0.0) [SeeD] June 27 2009 6:16 PM EDT

no

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 27 2009 6:19 PM EDT

KK, glad I didn't then. Wouldn't have wanted to be DQed from my own Tourny! :P

QBRanger June 27 2009 6:30 PM EDT

We had one problem processing your entry:

* Tournament Characters are not allowed to rent. Sorry.

Please go back, correct it, and resubmit your entry.

Thank you.

When one tries to rent items on a T character.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 27 2009 7:07 PM EDT

Ah, cool. ;)

Soul Eater June 28 2009 12:05 AM EDT

Well I'm quiting this tourney UC is too hard and I suck at the lower level game.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 28 2009 12:27 AM EDT

Rewards
Cash (total) $4,619
XP (per minion) 6279

Bonuses
Challenge bonus 86%
Tournament bonus 2400%

Addicting.

QBRanger June 28 2009 12:40 AM EDT

is it legal to pay someone to suicide against me for xp/money in the T?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 28 2009 12:46 AM EDT

No

FailBoat[SG] June 28 2009 1:07 AM EDT

I'm really enjoying this tourney. Not looking forward to when 2400 is the actual bonus for N*B though. >.>

Admiralkiller June 28 2009 1:56 AM EDT

So I am not exactly sure what Ranger means by someone suicide against him but I am assuming he means.

He is paying his tourny money to a tourny character to lose to him.

Otherwise I don`t think that is fair.

AdminShade June 28 2009 7:44 AM EDT

ak that's exactly what he meant, and such a thing should never be allowed in tourney.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 28 2009 11:16 AM EDT

Prize packages are posted, top four players will win.

QBRanger June 28 2009 3:33 PM EDT

Cash (total) $8,259
XP (per minion) 4396

Bonuses
Challenge bonus 61%
Tournament bonus 2400%

How can anyone not like that?

FailBoat[SG] June 28 2009 3:53 PM EDT

*Points at Shade*

You broke the Cap! Bad!

(0.0) [SeeD] June 28 2009 6:00 PM EDT

How are 3rd and 4th going to be decided?
What happens if each person wins 3 fights?

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] June 28 2009 6:01 PM EDT

Rewards
Cash (total) $9,601
XP (per minion) 7282

Bonuses
Challenge bonus 100%
Tournament bonus 2400%

(0.0) [SeeD] June 28 2009 6:02 PM EDT

thank you draco

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] June 28 2009 6:38 PM EDT

Awesome target for anyone that can beat him down low Guitar Hero III

(0.0) [SeeD] June 28 2009 6:39 PM EDT

why'd you tell everyone lol

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] June 28 2009 6:39 PM EDT

cause its only fair ^_~

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 28 2009 6:40 PM EDT

As for third and fourth, I'm (hoping I got it right!) thinking that the semi final losers will fight each other for third and fourth place.

QBRanger June 28 2009 7:35 PM EDT

Unless we can restart with a 2nd or 3rd attempt, I think we already have a winnner.

There is one character with a MPR/battles fought ratio just too high for anyone to even be close to beating him.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 28 2009 7:38 PM EDT

I agree. Is it possible to restart with a 2ed character?

QBRanger June 28 2009 7:40 PM EDT

I sure hope so as there is someone with a 2nd attempt already.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 28 2009 7:42 PM EDT

Seeing as this character has no hopes of winning, I'll likely restart when I'm done watching movies with my lady.

If It's not allowed and I get DQed then at least I don't lose anything other than time spent lol.

QBJohnnywas June 28 2009 7:55 PM EDT

I probably should have asked if it was ok to retire and start over. If it isn't then good luck to everyone else!

(0.0) [SeeD] June 28 2009 8:27 PM EDT

you'll still get into brackets even if you don't restart.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 28 2009 8:43 PM EDT

Yeah, you can restart. If you do so, CM me the name of the character you abandoned.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 29 2009 2:52 AM EDT

I just want to clear something up, after the first week are you still allowed to use Tattoos?

DoS [Demon Forging] June 29 2009 2:53 AM EDT

Nope

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 29 2009 3:45 AM EDT

"There is one character with a MPR/battles fought ratio just too high for anyone to even be close to beating him."

Who's that? (Just curious)

And if they aren't running their final Strat coming up, they'll have to lose some MPR from untraining anyway.

AdminShade June 29 2009 3:52 AM EDT

I broke the cap with 4 fights, I was counting but something went wrong... do those 4 fights make me a bad person? :(

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 29 2009 3:57 AM EDT

I think somehow the BA from the 1600 refreshes a little bit.

I fought until I had 100 BA on the sidebar... 1600-100=1500 or so you would think, yet somehow I missed the mark by 11 fights :|

QBJohnnywas June 29 2009 5:16 AM EDT

Yeah, the BA refreshes once you're under the 160 total. I almost got caught by the same thing.

QBJohnnywas June 29 2009 5:32 AM EDT

Damn. Went 1 ba over the 1500. Must have got a quick heal on my opponent and got two kills more quickly than I realised. I was counting so carefully as well!

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 June 29 2009 6:50 AM EDT

I didn't think the BA would regenerate if it would put you beyond the cap, if you've gone a couple fights over, I won't force you to restart, I didn't think that problem would arise.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 29 2009 7:20 AM EDT

Gl, me.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 29 2009 9:16 AM EDT

This is complete crap. Restarting shouldn't be allowed in a tournament with all of the starting BA. Just look at Mandos's new tournament character. 197MPR per BA while the 2nd highest is at 138 MPR per BA.

QBJohnnywas June 29 2009 9:21 AM EDT

Where do you get your numbers from there SK? From what I can see his new char is: MPR 23,746.

Am I missing something or do you need glasses?

Lefty June 29 2009 9:22 AM EDT

Johnny, divide his MPR by Battles Challenged.

:)

QBJohnnywas June 29 2009 9:23 AM EDT

Lol, I'm in an office where the temperature is hitting 44 degrees. My brain is melting.

QBRanger June 29 2009 9:49 AM EDT

I have to agree with SK.

Restarting is utter garbage.

AdminShade June 29 2009 10:11 AM EDT

Slayer:

We get 1600 BA, and are allowed to spend 1500.

Then we have 100 BA, but this does replenish. This is why I got over the 'allowance' for the first week by 4.

I refuse to start over!

QBJohnnywas June 29 2009 10:13 AM EDT

Only garbage if you manage to find good targets that haven't been eaten alive before you get there...lol.

On a serious note, I'm more than happy to retire my restart.

Lefty June 29 2009 10:13 AM EDT

Shade:

" I didn't think the BA would regenerate if it would put you beyond the cap, if you've gone a couple fights over, I won't force you to restart, I didn't think that problem would arise. " -- Slayer

FailBoat[SG] June 29 2009 10:31 AM EDT

Bah... I'm not going to win. At this point, I'm just trying to get the largest cloak in the game. >.>

AdminShade June 29 2009 10:50 AM EDT

good then :D

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 29 2009 10:58 AM EDT

"Gl, me."

Pfft. I don't think you're a shoe in. ;) If you don't retrain when the brackets start, I'll use a base EC to get you to zero Str. ;) No RoBF to get you thorugh the Brackets. :P

If you do retrain, that'll just lower your MPR/Per Battle.

And if you syphon off that high HP, you're hitting a larger retrain penalty than most. ;)

As for restarting, you can't transfer existing tourny gear/cash can you? So what's really the problem of being able to restart? (Tourny noob-ness striking again here...)

QBRanger June 29 2009 11:06 AM EDT

Benefits of restarting:

Seeing all those that went before you, paving the way with tests of characters, sometimes losing to them to find the optimal targets.

Just look at the win % of the restarters compared to the first time characcteres.

The MPR/BA challenged ratios are 189 or above for some of the restarters due to the knowledge of which characters to hit for 100% bonus.

My personal ratio is 120.

This leads to more, much more MPR when the brackets start. And everyone will retrain once they start.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 29 2009 11:07 AM EDT

But you could do exactly the same thing from just not making your Tourny charcater on day one, and waiting till half way thourgh (if you're sure you can burn all the BA in time.

What explicit benefit does restarting have over just delaying your run?

QBRanger June 29 2009 11:10 AM EDT

And restarting is what I will be doing!!!

(0.0) [SeeD] June 29 2009 11:17 AM EDT

Nooooooooooooo, don't restart.

QBRanger June 29 2009 4:50 PM EDT

Well unless one is lucky enough now to find and get a RBF, there is really no way to compete with those lucky or smart enough to have already gotten one.

There is really no equal footing in this Tournament and one of the reasons I dislike the current T structure when rares are allowed and we have to fight against each other.

It becomes a who gets luckiest type of tourney. Who gets that uber rare to get the 100% bonus longest.

I tried to fight very smart and have less MPR than those who have less battles all due to the lack of getting that correct tattoo.

Perhaps this situation can be rectified in future tourneys.

Like everyone starting with the same rares and no other rares allowed.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 29 2009 4:57 PM EDT

197MPR per BA while the 2nd highest is at 138 MPR per BA.

It's actually a lot higher than that, I haven't spent any XP in over 150 fights :S give or take. I've got a LOT of XP untrained =)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 29 2009 4:58 PM EDT

From: auctioneer (4:57 PM EDT)
You won A Lesser Rune of Balrog Flame lvl 20 for 1072076 -- details here


:O I didn't think Draco would actually let me get it!

Most expensive lesser EVER.

>_<

DoS [Demon Forging] June 29 2009 5:00 PM EDT

Wow, that's crazy. Lucky auctioneer!

QBRanger June 29 2009 5:07 PM EDT

In the future, I really believe there should be a penalty for starting over.

It was nice to have all the BA in one pool, however this did allow this type of chaos.

When we had to wait for regeneration, there was a point where is you restarted, you lost out due to the inability to maximize your BA.

Perhaps each day you after the first you restart you lose 150 BA. Those that have their first character of course get the full 1600 BA.

Because we all know that being new to a tourney is much harder than already fighting in one. The knowledge growth of course.

Admiralkiller June 30 2009 12:44 AM EDT

Can we all restart?

If so no big deal.

If not I am extremely disappointed.

This is a tournament. In any tournament I have ever played or watched do they allow restarts. Imagine If during the NFL playoffs: A team was allowed to restart after the 1st quarter. Baseball? Hockey? Basketball, Ping Pong? Poker? None.

Anyways I do appreciate tournaments and I know rules usually get established from people trying to abuse the system. Some of the suggestions above look good, I hope we can have something set for next time to avoid these problems.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] June 30 2009 12:48 AM EDT

Yes, we can all restart Ak. But, I'd prefer that in the future, no one be allowed to restart.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 30 2009 3:08 AM EDT

If there's to be no restarting, then in any tourny with the full BA cap to start, all Tourny characters *must* be created the moment the tourny starts, and all BA spent asap, as otherwise, the guys who leave starting till later get this 'bonus' of being able to follow the progress of those who've already started.

Imagine if someone new to this tourny just made thier character now. They've not restarted, yet would have the same perks as someone who did.

Seriously, it's not restarting that's caused any sort of inbalance, it's (if you really think it's such a large inbalance) starting after others to let them pave the way for you.

Which is a strategy in it's own right.

QBJohnnywas June 30 2009 3:11 AM EDT

As much a strategy as getting hold of the first full tattoo you can get hold of rather than the lessers that emerge on the first day of any tourney.

blackshadowshade June 30 2009 4:08 AM EDT

Hey GL, you've got my strat down pat. :)

Seriously, I was busy on the weekend and away yesterday for work, so I haven't had the time to think about the tourney seriously. I don't think that there should be a penalty for starting late, because for some of us, RL may actually stop us starting on time.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 30 2009 7:16 AM EDT

I don't think there's any problem waiting in the tournament, but restarting is unfair. Burn your BA carefully the first time and you won't have to restart.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 30 2009 7:35 AM EDT

What's the difference?

(0.0) [SeeD] June 30 2009 7:37 AM EDT

Why should there be a 2nd chance if you mess up? If everyone can keep restarting over and over then it won't be much of a tournament when everyone has the same MPR.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 30 2009 7:39 AM EDT

It's all about the bracket. ;)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 30 2009 7:40 AM EDT

(All thought I've just thought of something dodgey for that, CMing slayer about it).

Rawr June 30 2009 4:45 PM EDT

well now that I see everyone is restarting I'm done.

Rawr June 30 2009 4:46 PM EDT

let me rephrase that:
since anyone can restart at any point and people can join really late and still be competitive (perhaps even stronger than the people that start at the designated time), I'm done.

Rawr June 30 2009 4:49 PM EDT

^...
kind of sounds like how CB is now isn't it :X

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] June 30 2009 5:16 PM EDT

Oh well. Looks like I'll probably be winning some of my gear back.

(0.0) [SeeD] June 30 2009 5:17 PM EDT

why?

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 30 2009 5:24 PM EDT

Not to degrade you or anything GL but you're not in the top 5 currently with mpr to fight ratio. I have your same MPR and half your fights to put it into perspective.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- June 30 2009 8:40 PM EDT

=) So NO you CANNOT place and win your gear back, that would be CHEATING!!!! :D.

Nice donation btw GL, not many people would do that. =)

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] June 30 2009 10:59 PM EDT

How long till the bracket begins?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 1 2009 3:29 AM EDT

I know I'm not. ;) I never really intended to be. I only entered in the hope to get more people to enter the Tourny.

But seeing as a lot of people are just retiring, and not even going to give the bracket section a go, it looks like I might win gear back by default.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 1 2009 4:41 AM EDT

Majority of the people who have retired a character have either made another character or are intending to.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 1 2009 4:43 AM EDT

I don't like the fact that you are able to retire and restart as much as you like. As soon as it is known that there is someone doing really good. Everyone else can just restart and copy him.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 1 2009 4:56 AM EDT

The problem is, if you don't allow it (in the type of tourny that gives you your BA upfront), it would just push people into waiting for as long as possible before making their go at it, so there's more chance of learning from those who've played before you.

Hell, even if you forced everyone to make thier one tourny charcater on the first day, I could wait, and not spend any BA until the last day, just to get this sort of advantage. (Or as close to the end as I thought I could get away with, due to BA burning time taken...)

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 1 2009 4:56 AM EDT

"Majority of the people who have retired a character have either made another character or are intending to."

I hope so. :(

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 1 2009 5:06 AM EDT

I reckon, if this is possible, to have a tourney where you can either make it that each player can get one restart
or
that on everyday, the BA cap is reduced by 80 BA; i.e if you don't fight at all you lose 80 BA from your BA total, you fight 10 fights you lose 70 BA from your current BA total and so on to where anyone who has spent 80 or more BA loses no BA from their total. For this tourney set it to stop when people reach 100 or less BA. For this there would be no retiring and restarting.
This means that people can't restart to get an advantage or wait till later to follow those doing the best.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 1 2009 5:10 AM EDT

For the first day there would be no BA removal but everyday afterwards it would decrease by 80 BA. Anyone who joins later loses BA equal to the number of days they were not present (excluding the first).

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 5:18 AM EDT

I don't understand what the big deal is, people are acting like they are being slighted by people restarting and doing better than they are. If you suck, instead of whining, why not try to do better?

"OH GOD SOMEONE IS DOING BETTER THAN ME!!!!?!!?!? LETS WHINE AND SAY HOW UNFAIR IT IS EVEN THOUGH I CAN RESTART MYSELF BUT I'M TOO LAZY!!!!"

Jeez, you don't hear me whining about how unfair it is that 'Okay' nabbed a 3m NW RoBF. I don't want to hear any garbage about 'unfair' the rest of the tourny. Take a reality check please.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 1 2009 5:46 AM EDT

I wasn't actually complaining Mandos, I was giving a suggestion for future tournaments that mean that NOONE has a reason to complain about someone else's success.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 6:02 AM EDT

No worries, I wasn't talking about any one person in general, It just seems like everyone is upset about something they shouldn't be upset about.

I will however note that I strongly hope your idea does not get implemented in any form, as people should always have the right to restart if they feel. If the world always catered to the whiners it would indeed be a dull dull world.

(0.0) [SeeD] July 1 2009 6:59 AM EDT

Mandos, I did not buy a 3m RoBF. I bought a base RoBF and inked 3 different for the tat I have now.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 12:23 PM EDT

deifeln8 (DoS) Serialkiller (T39 Okay) An Electric Familiar lvl 480,691 (end-auction 126485) Jun 29


Why do you lie?

An Electric Familiar lvl 480,691
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For sale by deifeln8
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Net worth: $8,726,569
Net worth is a measure of how much has been spent on upgrades, not of market value.

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* $2,200,000 Serialkiller ( T39 Okay ) -- tournament 39 on Jun 29

(0.0) [SeeD] July 1 2009 1:02 PM EDT

It was an EF not a RoBF. Try reading.

QBRanger July 1 2009 1:07 PM EDT

One question:

Why do we prevent people from abandoning their accounts, giving up all their characters and items, with the desire to restart with a NUB?

The answer I hear is that the knowledge of how to play CB gives you a very distinct advantage the 2nd or 3rd time around.

How can the same not apply in the tournament?

But... Everyone does have the same chance to restart so it is an even playing field. For those with the time to have many do overs.

I personally do not wish to spend the time to restart again and again and possibly again in order to make the perfect character, with the perfect MPR/battles fought ratio in order to make it to the bracket portion of the tourney.

If I would have kept my first character, I would have been left out of the bracket portion.

So restarting, if one started the first couple days, was essential to being competitive.

Yes, it is my choice not to restart. However, I would like tourneys in the future, at least some of them, of this style to not allow restarts.

Good luck to all that are playing, make the bracket portion be competitive.

DoS [Demon Forging] July 1 2009 1:12 PM EDT

1600 starting BA and use of regeneration BA :)

That would help prevent all this restarting baloney

FailBoat[SG] July 1 2009 1:14 PM EDT

By the way, can SirSlapAlot be retired now please? I'm dropping out of this tourney due to the fact that everyone and their cousin has restarted to get a bigger and better team.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 5:09 PM EDT

It was an EF not a RoBF. Try reading.

--Serialkiller, 1:02 PM EDT

... Uhh...

(0.0) [SeeD] July 1 2009 5:11 PM EDT

An Electric Familiar lvl 480,691
Details
For sale by deifeln8
ended

You see that? I'm pretty sure it says Electric Familiar.

blackshadowshade July 1 2009 5:19 PM EDT

Mandos, I can see where you're coming from, but it was an EF. How do we know that it wasn't just a named RoBF when it was sold? Well, for one, the tattoo would still be named, but as you can see on SK's tourney character, it's not named.

In a sense, this seems to be a minor bug on the auction history.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 5:23 PM EDT

When you search Flame for completed auctions it shows up. It's also possible it was a named item and the naming ending between now and then.

Either way you scored a very large tattoo. I don't really care, just don't whine about restarting being unfair, because one could easily whine about your success being 100% due to your own luck in finding a large tattoo /and or an robf also.

Like I previously said I don't really care either way I was just pointing out that life isn't fair and urging people to grow up and stop whining about every little thing.

(0.0) [SeeD] July 1 2009 5:24 PM EDT

Mandos, it was in auctions for anyone to buy. How is it luck that I bought it?

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 5:26 PM EDT

Not everyone was at a point in the tournament to buy it. It was in the AH AFTER I retired my first character, and it was gone before my restart character had even 400k.

I'm not mad at you or accusing you of anything negative, I was just pointing out that not everything is going to be completely fair.

*shrug*

On a different note, why did you retire your character?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 1 2009 5:31 PM EDT

"If I would have kept my first character, I would have been left out of the bracket portion."

If we take Mando's second character as the benchmark, and his growth remians constant, we're looking at about 154K MPR to make the bracket.

You would have easily been within that on your first character.

(0.0) [SeeD] July 1 2009 5:31 PM EDT

I'm obviously going to lose if I don't restart.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 1 2009 5:33 PM EDT

200K MPR is more than most though SK.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 5:34 PM EDT

SK I'll be impressed if your restart does as good as your first character. Not sure restarting was the best move, but to each his own. Truly your first character was not in a bad position at all :S

Hatchet might be the Cinderella story if he can keep it up.

(0.0) [SeeD] July 1 2009 5:37 PM EDT

I'm sure my restart will do better than my second character. 200k MPR would not be enough to win at this point, with 4 people wit insane MPR growth right now.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 1 2009 5:37 PM EDT

4?

blackshadowshade July 1 2009 5:38 PM EDT

And to think we had a dearth of tattoos before this tourney ...

(0.0) [SeeD] July 1 2009 5:40 PM EDT

Mandos, Hatch, Emotion, Nem.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 2 2009 4:33 AM EDT

Should my BA be regenerating to 160?

AdminShade July 2 2009 4:42 AM EDT

yes, but you should not use it up to that point :)

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 2 2009 4:45 AM EDT

how come?, i thought we only needed 100 for the bracket

AdminShade July 2 2009 4:46 AM EDT

BA always replenishes when below 160 :)

Indeed you only need 100 for the bracket, so use only 100 then ;)


(in other words, BA replenishing can't be prevented)

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 2 2009 4:48 AM EDT

So, are you saying i can't keep fighting with refresh because it is cheating or similar?

AdminShade July 2 2009 4:55 AM EDT

Yes, if you fight more, you will hit the hard cap of 1600 BA spent.


If you spend more than 1500 this week, you are disqualified.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 2 2009 4:56 AM EDT

Thanks for clearing that up Shade, just don't put an ultimatum on my head :)

DoS [Demon Forging] July 3 2009 12:01 AM EDT

I would just like to point out that many have broken the "If you are in the tourney, you can't buy from other tourney people through auctions" rule.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 3 2009 1:24 AM EDT

They can't use rares during the bracket anyways, so I don't really care about the auctions this time around.

Lefty July 3 2009 12:45 PM EDT

"Each player will have to fight their target three times. Only a win counts for you, everything else counts as a loss. Whoever wins the majority of the 6 battles will go to the next round. "

In other words..

Two players have a match-up.

Each player attacks the other 3 times.
Whoever has the most wins out of the 6 fights (3 Offensive, 3 Defensive) moves on?

Lefty July 3 2009 12:55 PM EDT

Also, how will the bracket be set up?

1 vs 10
2 vs 9
3 vs 8

etc. etc. ??

That's how they run normally, so is this what we are going to set up as?

QBRanger July 3 2009 1:20 PM EDT

Due to the fact people restarted numerous times, there are currently only 4 characters within 60% of SK's MPR.

Perhaps another 2 or 3 may make it.

Lefty July 3 2009 1:23 PM EDT

Might be a close run then Ranger.
I'm just curious as to how the bracket will work.

First vs Last
Second vs 2nd Last

is the standard.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 3 2009 1:27 PM EDT

I 'move' that SK and Emotion's tournament characters be reset, and maybe even a fine in place. What they are doing is abuse no matter how you look at it.

SK is gimping his character so that emotion can fight it (The Force), and when Emotion is fighting it (A 100% target for emotion, boosting his score super high), SK is using the force to lose to someone else, so emotion is literally fighting 45-50 fights in a minute. (check battle log, 48 fights in 1:08 for example) Then SK retrains his character so no one else can fight it, and then he fights emotion's character for 100% bonus. How is that legal?

I've only just noticed this, but considering SK has over 1300 fights against emotion's character, and Emotion has been farming SK's character for the past 2 days (695 in the past 24 hours), this is plain abuse.

If this kind of action is truly condoned in this tournament and in future tournaments then I feel sorry for the entire CB community.

Seriously, shame on you guys. Even if you win this tournament and Slayer lets it fly, you're both still losers in my eyes from this day forward.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] July 3 2009 1:32 PM EDT

Even though I'm not in it, what's stopping double-tapping, either by the fighter or a random person, giving the tourney character an easy win? (This is for the bracket fights).

Sounds like a fun contest, =)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 3 2009 1:35 PM EDT

By the way:

Rules

* You may not use Decay unless told otherwise.
* You may not use tattoos unless told otherwise. Only lesser tattoos will ever be allowed.
* You may not buy items via auctions from any player participating in the tournament, including yourself.
* You may auction any non-rare item as a tournament character, in addition, you may auction rares, as long as they are fully disenchanted.
* You may not sell items to the store with your non-tournament character, in order to buy them or transfer them to another tournament character.
* You may not retire your tournament character unless you plan on creating a new tournament character, or quitting the tournament. Please chatmail Slayer333 if you retire your tournament character early.
* You must use at least 1/2 of the BA cap to be eligible for a prize in any tournament.
* You may not intentionally "gimp" a character so that it is beatable by tournament characters.
* You may not name items.




You'll see and I quote "You may not intentionally "gimp" a character so that it is beatable by tournament characters."... ... ..

Cheaaaaaatttteerrrrssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 3 2009 1:49 PM EDT

Serialkiller and Emotion will both be disqualified, it is clearly against the rules to do what was done.

TheHatchetman July 3 2009 4:34 PM EDT

"You may not retire your tournament character unless you plan on creating a new tournament character, or quitting the tournament. Please chatmail Slayer333 if you retire your tournament character early. "

I miss when this read "You may not retire a tourney character except on the first day of the tournament" (or something close to that, not an exacgt quote, but it was once a rule)... was kinda banking on this when i started a day and a half late...

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 3 2009 5:22 PM EDT

Sorry if I seemed overly angry, I had just woken up. Not really an excuse but I'm NOT a morning person =).

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 3 2009 6:08 PM EDT

Oops i put an axbow into Auctions without disenchanting it. Sorry i forgot :(. I can't change it now either as you it won't let me disenchant it while its in Auctions and i can't cancel because it has a bid on it. Sorry bout that.

AdminShade July 3 2009 8:48 PM EDT

if you can auction it then it's nps...

KrossOut July 3 2009 8:49 PM EDT

Wow... He also tried the same trick to me but a little differently. He kept healing his tourney char since i was already beating it. He said he's jsut speeding up my fights. I didnt know this was illegal so i agreed to it, and when i didnt want to fight his character anymore(CB was getting low) he asked if i could take off my RoBF so that he can beat me to return the favor... i didn't agree to that part simply cause i found it stupid to help another competitor win the tournament im trying to win, and if i'd known the first part was also illegal i would not have agreed to it either. Hopefully i do not get banned from this since i was already beating his character at that time, it was just sped up... A LOT

And to SK... it was me and emotion's first tourney (that's what i read in chat neways) so good job ruining it for us if we both get disqualified

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 3 2009 8:55 PM EDT

I don't remember changing that rule, Hatch :-?

(0.0) [SeeD] July 3 2009 9:00 PM EDT

Krossout, what we did wasn't illeagal...

QBJohnnywas July 3 2009 9:11 PM EDT

SK:

"You may not intentionally "gimp" a character so that it is beatable by tournament characters. "

That's an official tourney rule.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 3 2009 9:42 PM EDT

What is to stop someone from equipping and fighting with a tattoo when no one is looking and claiming the win?? Maybe once the bracket begins, is it possible for slayer to manually remove all tattoos / banned items?

It's obvious that people will always try their hardest to get around the stated rules when there is a prize up for grabs :(

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 3 2009 10:12 PM EDT

Are non-rare melee weapons allowed during the bracket?

QBJohnnywas July 3 2009 10:14 PM EDT

UC only. UC being the only non rare melee weapon you should need for a UC contest.

QBRanger July 3 2009 10:20 PM EDT

Does not UC take precedent over melee weapons anyway?

Like DD takes precedent over all weapons, including UC.

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 3 2009 10:44 PM EDT

Nope melee weapons override the UC

Newlin [SeeD] July 4 2009 2:27 AM EDT

What is the top MPR as of now? I wanted to know if I was gonna make it into the brackets or not.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 4 2009 2:43 AM EDT

Virtually unlimited BA on a holiday weekend...
Slayer really is awesome personified

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 4 2009 3:14 AM EDT

currently
Score 459,484
Power 258,529
MPR 216,620

would take 129972 to get in the brackets

Soul Eater July 4 2009 3:26 AM EDT

People have been DQ'd from the tourney?

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 4 2009 4:30 AM EDT

Yes Soul Eater, for breaking the rules.

(0.0) [SeeD] July 4 2009 6:34 AM EDT

JW, that's not what I meant. I know gimping a character is against the rules but what I did with KrossOut wasn't.

TheHatchetman July 4 2009 9:10 AM EDT

from Revision at Sep 30 2007 by Admin{CB1}Slayer333
comment: updated page

"You may not retire your character early, the only exception is on the first day of the tourney."

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 4 2009 11:25 AM EDT

I will post the bracket tonight, tomorrow you may begin your first bracket fight.

NooneKnows July 4 2009 12:03 PM EDT

what time is the first week officially over? I'm still way under the cap

(0.0) [SeeD] July 4 2009 12:04 PM EDT

It was over 4 minutes ago.

NooneKnows July 4 2009 12:09 PM EDT

oh well. thanks

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 4 2009 12:09 PM EDT

You can keep using BA till midnight tonight.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 5 2009 7:11 AM EDT

So anyways, might as well call the tourney a draw, since everyone will use EC and all the fights will be a stalemate

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 5 2009 10:12 AM EDT

If everyone uses EC then it would come down to plain MPR advantage.

Sickone July 5 2009 10:29 AM EDT

Or huge HP + GA :)

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 5 2009 10:31 AM EDT

Shhh, don't suggest that there might be other strats available.

BHT July 5 2009 12:35 PM EDT

Well, I dunno why the bracket isn't posted yet....

Also, more then half the tourney characters still have a DD trained and are using "rare" equipment, which is clearly against the rules as of this point.

(0.0) [SeeD] July 5 2009 1:36 PM EDT

SickOne, huge HP and GA is easily beat by DM.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 5 2009 1:38 PM EDT

Round 1

The Bouncer
Rules of Engagement


Rental Company PWN II
Unarmed Shade


[T39]LetMeWin
TOURN4M3NT 39


brawler
TourneyTick 4


[T39] Slapmedo
T39Draco

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 5 2009 1:40 PM EDT

mandos, noone, and Shade have to unequip/untrain something before fighting their bracket fights.

Admiralkiller July 5 2009 1:48 PM EDT

I still have 1.7mill xp to train

Admiralkiller July 5 2009 1:57 PM EDT

Okay I trained my xp and I should be in the bracket now.

QBRanger July 5 2009 2:15 PM EDT

MPR 266,676 is the highest MPR.

Times 60% = 160006 MPR to qualify for the brackets.

Should not these be the finalists:

The Bouncer (266671)
Rental Company PWN II (217376)
[T39]LetMeWin (199115)
brawler (174817)
[T39] Slapmedo (165758)

Everyone else is less than 160k MPR.

BHT July 5 2009 2:17 PM EDT

Slayer stated in chat that he would be "loose" on the entry MPR in order to make the bracket more interesting.

QBRanger July 5 2009 2:18 PM EDT

Ah,

Changing the rules in midstream.

Thanks for solving that question I had.

BHT July 5 2009 2:19 PM EDT

Also my opponent still has a bow equipped and is using MM. What do I do?

AdminShade July 5 2009 2:25 PM EDT

I removed my equipment, didn't think I was in the bracket anyway.

My opponent has to remove his items also and unlearn some things.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] July 5 2009 2:46 PM EDT

SLayer have you never played a sport that required a bracket? You can't just have everyone fight each other or you will get 5 people in the semis. I would recommend a 16 man bracket with the 6 highest seeds getting a bye. This is about all you can do short of cutting out two people to a eight man bracket.

BHT July 5 2009 2:49 PM EDT

highest mpr can get a bye in the semi's then...

Admiralkiller July 5 2009 2:58 PM EDT

well this sucks I untrain for 20 minutes and I don't get to play even thou my final mpr is higher then two of the finalists.

QBJohnnywas July 5 2009 3:10 PM EDT

I shouldn't be in here should I?

Doesn't really matter, I can't do anything but stalemate against my opponent...

Lefty July 5 2009 3:24 PM EDT

Hehe Artemis. This isn't MLG :)

8 Teams

4 into Semis

Winner of Semis = Prize #1 and #2
Losers of Semis = Prize #3 and #4.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] July 5 2009 3:51 PM EDT

yeah emotion that'd work great except we have 10 not 8. What are we going to do with 5 semifinalist?

Lefty July 5 2009 3:53 PM EDT

We'll have to shorten the bracket.

Since some of the teams in it shouldn't be as it is.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 5 2009 6:21 PM EDT

Sorry, I was in a hurry this morning when I posted the bracket, I'll shorten it to 8.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 5 2009 6:25 PM EDT

Updated bracket, you have until noon tomorrow to get your fights in.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 5 2009 6:38 PM EDT

Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) Unarmed Shade (F) (+) (The Knighthood II) Rental Company PWN II 10 6:36 PM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) Unarmed Shade (F) (+) (The Knighthood II) Rental Company PWN II 7 6:36 PM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) Unarmed Shade (F) (+) (The Knighthood II) Rental Company PWN II 8 6:35 PM EDT

KrossOut July 5 2009 6:46 PM EDT

your target is tourneytick mandos

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 5 2009 6:50 PM EDT

Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) TourneyTick 4 (F) (+) (Battle Royale II) Rental Company PWN II 9 6:48 PM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) TourneyTick 4 (F) (+) (Battle Royale II) Rental Company PWN II 7 6:48 PM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) TourneyTick 4 (F) (+) (Battle Royale II) Rental Company PWN II 8 6:48 PM EDT

KrossOut July 5 2009 6:50 PM EDT

[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) T39Draco (F) (The Knighthood II) [T39]LetMeWin 19 6:49 PM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) T39Draco (F) (The Knighthood II) [T39]LetMeWin 23 6:49 PM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) T39Draco (F) (The Knighthood II) [T39]LetMeWin 23 6:48 PM EDT

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 5 2009 8:04 PM EDT

Glad people got lucky and retrained and fought before I was fully trained up and ready

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 5 2009 8:11 PM EDT

In which case Draco you will both have 3 wins and will probably have to redo the round :P

Cube July 5 2009 8:20 PM EDT

Nayab, it's too late for that.

BHT July 5 2009 8:35 PM EDT

Even after 3 re-trains, Mandos still crushed me. He won all 6.

Guess im out, can't wait till next tourney, hopefully it is better :/

KrossOut July 5 2009 11:16 PM EDT

oh draco i just fought you when the real bracket was posted sorry if i did...it looked like you were already trained up for the tourney so i thought it was ok sorry

KrossOut July 5 2009 11:43 PM EDT

i guess we would've been both stalemate 3 times... iunno what would happen with that....

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 6 2009 12:03 AM EDT

its fine dude... just a little peeved at myself mostly... good job and hope you make it further

Admiralkiller July 6 2009 12:57 AM EDT

Tiger Knee The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) Stalemate 50 12:56 AM EDT
Tiger Knee The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) Stalemate 50 12:55 AM EDT
Tiger Knee The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) Stalemate 50 12:43 AM EDT


Better then I thought for 1 vs 8

BHT July 6 2009 1:07 AM EDT

Since Im already out, I was playing with my strat a little bit and now I am able to stalemate everyone in the bracket. How can a winner be decided if the two finalist stalemate each other?

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 6 2009 1:15 AM EDT

Yesh, thats why I said everyone would train EC and it would be stalemate city... but whatever works... I just wish I woulda got on earlier and trained up all the way before I got fought hehe

DoS [Demon Forging] July 6 2009 1:17 AM EDT

If you are the attacker, let the other person have their EC while you chill with your high HP and mid size GA. Obviously it will only work if you can get your HP large enough.

DrAcO5676 [The Knighthood III] July 6 2009 1:29 AM EDT

So obviously this Toruney was about enchanters right? The one that trains a bigger GA? Oh my bad... it was a UC tourney not Enchanter tourney...

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 6 2009 3:28 AM EDT

I thought both fighters in a bracket had to fight. Draco, you should do your three fights, and if you win all three your bracket is tied.

NooneKnows July 6 2009 3:53 AM EDT

brawler (nok discount) [T39] Slapmedo F) (+) (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) brawler 4 3:47 AM EDT
brawler (nok discount) [T39] Slapmedo (F) (+) (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) brawler 6 3:47 AM EDT
brawler (nok discount) [T39] Slapmedo (F) (+) (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) brawler 5 3:46 AM EDT

AdminShade July 6 2009 4:32 AM EDT

in my opinion, the bracket should be for everyone in the tourney, not just the higher MPRs...

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 6 2009 5:04 AM EDT

The Bouncer (GodSpeed) Tiger Knee (F) (+) The Bouncer 18 5:03 AM EDT
The Bouncer (GodSpeed) Tiger Knee (F) (+) The Bouncer 19 5:03 AM EDT
The Bouncer (GodSpeed) Tiger Knee (F) (+) The Bouncer 17 5:03 AM EDT

Finished my 3 fights.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] July 6 2009 10:46 AM EDT

Noone, you fought me with something other than UC. You killed me in round 4 and 5, before we even got to melee.

Lefty July 6 2009 10:50 AM EDT

Are bows eligible to be used??

Since they are not considered "rare" ??

NooneKnows July 6 2009 10:58 AM EDT

Artemis,

there were no ranged rounds; it skipped straight to melee. I had no ranged weapon equipped, nor DD trained.

AdminShade July 6 2009 11:00 AM EDT

Emotion:

Rules:
Single Minion, must use UC, no ranged weapons

See first post, so it's a NO...

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] July 6 2009 11:03 AM EDT

[T39] Slapmedo (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) brawler (F) (+) (nok discount) [T39] Slapmedo 15 11:02 AM EDT
[T39] Slapmedo (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) brawler (F) (+) (nok discount) [T39] Slapmedo 17 11:02 AM EDT
[T39] Slapmedo (LONG ISLAND DUB ALL-STARS) brawler (F) (+) (nok discount) Stalemate 50 11:00 AM EDT

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] July 6 2009 11:04 AM EDT

Noone, what strat did you do in 4 rounds to kill me?

QBJohnnywas July 6 2009 11:07 AM EDT

If both of you start in melee that counts as round 1.

BHT July 6 2009 12:43 PM EDT

Considering there are millions of CBD and worth in items on the tourney chars, instead of retiring them and losing all that money/items, why isnt that used to fund the next tournament? Just curious..

Lefty July 6 2009 12:44 PM EDT

WoC -- the 2400% Bonus and Extra BA put into the game from the tournament is why, or so I'd think.

NooneKnows July 6 2009 3:43 PM EDT

I retrained to have about 2000 ST and DX left after EC, vs your 20 ST and 200 DX

AdminShade July 6 2009 4:06 PM EDT

The huge bonus to money and the fact that it is all extra money besides normal fighting is the reason.

It would be a 2400% bonus to normal cash inflow without much of an outflow... such a thing is bad for the community.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 7 2009 12:34 AM EDT

Round 2

The Bouncer
vs
Rental Company PWN II


[T39]LetMeWin
vs
brawler


AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 7 2009 1:13 AM EDT

The Bouncer (GodSpeed) Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Bouncer 24 1:08 AM EDT
The Bouncer (GodSpeed) Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Bouncer 21 1:08 AM EDT
The Bouncer (GodSpeed) Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) The Bouncer 28 1:08 AM EDT\


My 3 fights again.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 7 2009 1:25 AM EDT

Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) Stalemate 50 1:24 AM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) Rental Company PWN II 45 1:23 AM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) Stalemate 50 1:22 AM EDT

NooneKnows July 7 2009 3:44 AM EDT

brawler (nok discount) [T39]LetMeWin (F) (+) (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) brawler 24 3:36 AM EDT
brawler (nok discount) [T39]LetMeWin (F) (+) (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) brawler 24 3:36 AM EDT
brawler (nok discount) [T39]LetMeWin (F) (+) (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) brawler 23 3:36 AM EDT


I wasn't aware we're allowed to untrain UC for defense

KrossOut July 7 2009 11:20 AM EDT

[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) brawler (F) (nok discount) [T39]LetMeWin 10 11:16 AM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) brawler (F) (nok discount) [T39]LetMeWin 13 11:15 AM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) brawler (F) (nok discount) [T39]LetMeWin 13 11:15 AM EDT

The word Costra and nok are not in spell check so i have to keep typing more so i can post this... so how's everyone doing! I'm excited to see how this tourney ends good luck to everyone! oh man i really hope this is enough for me to post

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 8 2009 11:00 AM EDT

What happens when both players end up with 3 wins?

AdminShade July 8 2009 12:00 PM EDT

then it's a tie? :p

KrossOut July 8 2009 1:13 PM EDT

What does happen... hopefully we dont get a second round fight.. while im out for school...

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 8 2009 3:59 PM EDT

Is Slayer ok?

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 8 2009 4:51 PM EDT

Highest MPR advanced in the case of a tie.

Round 3
The Bouncer
vs
brawler

Sorry it is late, I've been busy with work, and usually come home too tired to do anything :|

Fights must be in by noon tomorrow.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 8 2009 6:04 PM EDT

For third and fourth place:

Rental Company PWN II
vs
[T39]LetMeWin

KrossOut July 8 2009 7:59 PM EDT

[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 1 7:53 PM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 1 7:53 PM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 1 7:52 PM EDT

3 wins again :D
and maybe everyone should've had one round against all the other character's in the top 4 and whoever has most battles won added up from all 9 fights (3 for each other character in top 4) decides the rankings (1st,2nd,3rd,4th)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 8 2009 8:05 PM EDT

This is garbage, we need to have a time for the fights to take place, Being beaten twice in a row now, because of being faught while trained to fight the previous opponent is garbage imo.

Cool you beat my 20 HP minion, Good job :O

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 8 2009 8:13 PM EDT

So what do we do now with our fight being a tie?

9 most recent battles Attacker Defender Winner Rounds At
Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II 12 8:10 PM EDT

Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II 14 8:09 PM EDT

Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II 14 8:09 PM EDT

[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 1 7:53 PM EDT

[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 1 7:53 PM EDT

[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (+) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 1 7:52 PM EDT

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 8 2009 9:10 PM EDT

Fight three times again.

KrossOut July 8 2009 9:40 PM EDT

[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 30 9:37 PM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 33 9:36 PM EDT
[T39]LetMeWin (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II (F) (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin 31 9:36 PM EDT


there i hope i won fair and square this time... cause im tired of winning on untrained chars...

oh god, i need more words... hope this is enough... maybe a bit more... ok this should be enough [50k fine applied, you should not pad your posts - Shade]

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 9 2009 1:50 AM EDT

The Bouncer (GodSpeed) brawler (F) (+) (nok discount) The Bouncer 39 1:48 AM EDT
The Bouncer (GodSpeed) brawler (F) (+) (nok discount) The Bouncer 44 1:47 AM EDT
The Bouncer (GodSpeed) brawler (F) (+) (nok discount) The Bouncer 42 1:47 AM EDT

Fought my 3 battles.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 9 2009 3:18 AM EDT

Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin (F) (+) (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II 21 3:17 AM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin (F) (+) (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II 22 3:17 AM EDT
Rental Company PWN II (Band of Wookies) [T39]LetMeWin (F) (+) (COSA NOSTRA DUB ALL-STARS) Rental Company PWN II 17 3:16 AM EDT

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 9 2009 3:19 AM EDT

Another tie :|

NooneKnows July 9 2009 11:29 AM EDT

brawler (nok discount) The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) brawler 24 11:26 AM EDT
brawler (nok discount) The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) brawler 21 11:26 AM EDT
brawler (nok discount) The Bouncer (F) (+) (GodSpeed) The Bouncer 21 11:23 AM EDT

way overtrained GA on the first one. not that it really would have mattered, if MPR is the deciding factor for a tie.

NooneKnows July 9 2009 11:32 AM EDT

congrats to all who participated!

idea for next time - retrain limits?

Admiralkiller July 9 2009 6:48 PM EDT

Grats to winner!

I really liked the premise of this tournament however there were many fail parts involved, I just tried to play with the advantages that were available.

A few adjustments and this style of tourny would be a success.

Overall a pretty good job by Slayer :-)

IMO Best part of tourny was 1600ba start
IMO worst part of tourny was multiple restarts.

KrossOut July 9 2009 8:13 PM EDT

so this is done? i dont get who won :P (i know its not me LOL)

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] July 9 2009 8:50 PM EDT

1st Place went to Nem
2nd Place Noone
3rd and 4th undecided

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] July 9 2009 9:13 PM EDT

Do those who made it to a tourney get a 100k part prize?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] July 10 2009 3:22 AM EDT

Congratulations everyone! Especially to those who won stuff!

A lot to be learned form this Tourny, and a big thanks to everyone who took part.

KrossOut July 10 2009 3:24 AM EDT

Thanks a lot for funding the tourney GentlemanLoser i had fun!! :)

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 10 2009 4:35 AM EDT

Thanks for the tourney. It was pretty good. It reached just high enough to where actually training UC was beneficial. I ended up having a UC effect of 1-2 for most of my fights.

BHT July 10 2009 3:59 PM EDT

Artemis - Slayer did mention that any user who made it in the bracket would receive a 100k bonus, as stated in the wiki rules as well.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] July 10 2009 4:12 PM EDT

Ahh sweet. Hopefully next tourney I won't be burning 1/2 of my BA over my phone XD.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 10 2009 7:05 PM EDT

1st Place: Nemerizt
2nd Place: Noone
3rd and 4th: Tie

Third and Fourth place will choose their prizes one by one from the 3rd and fourth prize pools. Mandos gets first pick because he has a higher MPR. Choose one item each until every item is chosen.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 10 2009 7:32 PM EDT

ToA please and thanks.

KrossOut July 10 2009 7:34 PM EDT

i was hoping you'd give me that :P haha anyways MS please :)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 10 2009 7:44 PM EDT

A Mithril Cuirass [36] (+1)

Kross can have the rest as I am not in need of any of those items.

Interesting tournament with a lot of twists >_< Grats Nem!

See you guys in a month or so for the next one!

KrossOut July 10 2009 7:57 PM EDT

Thanks Mandos =) and yes can't wait for the next one! =)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- July 11 2009 1:20 PM EDT

Slayer, did you forget to send out prizes? :O

KrossOut July 12 2009 3:42 PM EDT

yeah... didnt get mine either :P

BHT July 12 2009 4:30 PM EDT

Never got my 100k either.

AdminShade July 12 2009 5:34 PM EDT

For all tournaments, if you reach at least 75% of the top players MPR, you will earn a participation prize of 100k.

If I look at the top MPR, I only see 4 people making this.

DQT39 Okay Reborn (273513)
DQ[T39]Emotion (267675)
The Bouncer (263794)
Rental Company PWN II (202337)



If I however look better beyond the DisQualified, I get this:

The Bouncer (263794)
Rental Company PWN II (202337)
brawler (194145)


So WoC--PWNS, you don't get any prize because your tourney character only got 141k MPR.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 12 2009 9:27 PM EDT

I'm in Florida at the moment with no internet other than my iPhone, I'll be back and able to send prizes on Wednesday.

Rawr July 12 2009 9:56 PM EDT

"For all tournaments, if you reach at least 75% of the top players MPR, you will earn a participation prize of 100k."

Not neccesarily. for example, the "Zombie" tournament disregards this rule because participators can "die."

BHT July 12 2009 10:43 PM EDT

That is true shade, based on the wiki.

BUT slayer stated in a CM and in chat that anybody who made it into the bracket would receive a consolation prize, which I would assume he means the 100k.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 15 2009 11:56 AM EDT

Any word on when the prizes will be handed out?

AdminShade July 15 2009 12:15 PM EDT

"I'll be back and able to send prizes on Wednesday. "

Somewhere today I would guess

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] July 15 2009 12:18 PM EDT

doh, I guess I should read a few posts :)

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 July 15 2009 10:44 PM EDT

Prizes sent, participation prizes going out now.
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