Petition: kicking NW-PR (in General)

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 9 2009 1:28 AM EDT

<novice> I'm almost glad the NW-PR makes my SoD useless for NCB chars
* novice kicks NW-PR
* deifeln7 kicks NW-PR
* TheHatchetman kicks NW-PR
* deifeln8 kicks NW-PR

If you hate being punished for having good items join the club and give the net worth to power rating linkage a kick in the shins!

AdminShade September 9 2009 1:36 AM EDT

* Shade is unaffected by NW-PR so does not kick

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] September 9 2009 1:39 AM EDT

*Does a few Kicking Kata Routines on the NW-PR Linkages*

FailBoat[SG] [Forever Alone] September 9 2009 1:41 AM EDT

While I am against the NW-PR thing, it will never be removed because, from a Mage Player Perspective, this is what "keeps tanks balanced"...

kevlar September 9 2009 1:56 AM EDT

*tries to find some pants....*

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- September 9 2009 2:15 AM EDT

* Jiraiya kicks NW-PR

three4thsforsaken September 9 2009 2:22 AM EDT

But this is the only advantage us zero minion users have!

lostling September 9 2009 3:00 AM EDT

Thats what enc is for lol... Yes kick it

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 9 2009 3:03 AM EDT

Exactly lost!

Why should someone with items get lower rewards than someone with the same mpr and no items? Encumbrance already limits putting massive weapons on small chars, why do we need all that PR?

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] September 9 2009 3:23 AM EDT

Because it still represents how strong your team is. But I think that maybe PR should be changed so that it is represented by the proportion of your enc that you use. Except for the PR granted by a tattoo which should remain as is. That is one way to change it.

TheHatchetman September 9 2009 3:30 AM EDT

Just had a thought... Without NW-PR, it would be possible to maintain 100% challenge bonus all the way up until 6/20, at which point it would slowly start falling off. Almost a "rolling bonus" of sorts... Of course, N*B would have to be scaled back a good bit. But this way, even a 1MPR non-bonused char can make it to the top with enough time and dedication

TheHatchetman September 9 2009 3:31 AM EDT

Though with scores well above the top MPR, it really would act as more of a "free ride" to the top after awhile seeing as everbody in CB would be getting challenge bonus...

QBJohnnywas September 9 2009 3:37 AM EDT

PR isn't fully accurate anyway, seeing as how the weapon X doesn't affect PR at all, making it very easy for all the tanks with massive amounts of weapon X to get decent rewards....

TheHatchetman September 9 2009 3:39 AM EDT

And making my +200 weapon a laughable choice until I'm within the comfort and safety of 6/20 with all of my potential challenge bonus dried up...

Cube September 9 2009 4:27 AM EDT

If you do that then also kill 6/20 exemption..

lostling September 9 2009 5:19 AM EDT

:) if everyone grows at the same rate how will it change the 6/20 significantly?

Conan September 9 2009 5:38 AM EDT

*me kicks NW-PR

why not work like for tattoes and limit the 'effect' of the items to the NW allowance instead of applying penalties for encumbrance

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] September 9 2009 6:46 AM EDT

That is a very interesting idea there Conan *Adds in a few more kicks*

Neo Japan September 9 2009 8:10 AM EDT

*Neo Japan kicks Katana's as a Drop Item

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 9 2009 9:00 AM EDT

Whats the point in having PR without this link?

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] September 9 2009 9:14 AM EDT

Henk: As a Nicety.

Honestly PR with the NW Link really doesn't make all that much sense to be honest. Having a decent bonus for fighting up is a hard thing to do no matter what PR you are, except that sweet spot in the NCB/NUB, so why have it at all? What for that little Sweetspot in the NCB/NUB, I hardly think all of this PR-NW Linkage is worth a few weeks of a 100% bonus at best.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] September 9 2009 9:16 AM EDT

Re-create CB1, IMO.


QBRanger September 9 2009 9:39 AM EDT

I agree with Cube.

Only if you remove the top exemption.

Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 9 2009 10:15 AM EDT

I agree kick it....I have to remove certain items when I am fighting to have a better Challenge bonus for my fightlist...zzzzz

Rubberduck[T] [Hell Blenders] September 9 2009 11:27 AM EDT

I have thought the PR added by pth was a bit much for the last year.

Guardian September 9 2009 1:37 PM EDT

me flykick NW-PR.

Cube September 9 2009 2:57 PM EDT

"why not work like for tattoes and limit the 'effect' of the items to the NW allowance instead of applying penalties for encumbrance"

It becomes too complicated when it comes to weapons. You'd need a system that could choose how much x and pth, which wouldn't be very elegant.

RaptorX September 9 2009 3:01 PM EDT

Hi-Yaa! or however you say that kicking sound thing.

AdminJonathan September 12 2009 12:01 PM EDT

> If you hate being punished for having good items join the club

/me joins the club

I don't like the "punishment" feeling, but the whole point of PR is to represent reasonably accurately how powerful your character is. I don't see how to do that without a NW link.

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] September 12 2009 12:05 PM EDT

A Badge would do just fine, you hit 1Mil, 10Mil,100Mil...etc. etc. you get a Badge there is your representation.......

QBRanger September 12 2009 12:09 PM EDT

Badges? We don't need no sticking badges!!!

AdminTal Destra September 12 2009 12:09 PM EDT

But Zenai, your PR adjusts with your untraining (if you do) and a badge wouldn't do that, unless of course you made it disappear.

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] September 12 2009 12:10 PM EDT

Good eye and I'm sure that if something like this were instituted Jon would have something like that in place :P
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