Warned rrowland for profanity in PM (in Public Record)

AdminShade November 21 2009 8:01 AM EST

He knows what he has said and to whom. Fined him $100k per offensive word.

[Edit: sent back the money after talking with a few other admins. A fair warning should suffice. - Shade]

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 21 2009 8:33 AM EST

I didn't know the PG rules applied to PM...?

Burton November 21 2009 8:52 AM EST

They don't apply until someone complains.

QBRanger November 21 2009 8:54 AM EST

PG rules apply to all of CB.

AdminTal Destra [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] November 21 2009 9:08 AM EST

You're wrong there Ranger, if I made my own chat room it wouldn't be PG only.

QBRanger November 21 2009 9:09 AM EST

Yes, you are correct there.

AdminShade November 21 2009 9:13 AM EST

Tal: If you would make your own private room, some of the rules would not apply but some would still.

However this was not about a private room afaik.

AdminTal Destra [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] November 21 2009 9:18 AM EST

PM is PRIVATE messages, you can't define what is acceptable there because of the /ignore feature that is built into chat. Sorry but fining someone for something not done in carnage or new_players is wrong.

Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 21 2009 9:25 AM EST

I don't know the situation...private conversations should not be policed however harassment should not be permitted either.

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 21 2009 9:39 AM EST

I thought this is why we have /ignore

Admiralkiller [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 21 2009 9:49 AM EST

/ignore will not erase comments you have already received.

QBRanger November 21 2009 9:49 AM EST

Ops and admins cannot ignore.

Marlfox [Cult of the Valaraukar] November 21 2009 9:51 AM EST

Oh, I forgot about that. Very well, then. ;)

AdminTal Destra [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] November 21 2009 9:51 AM EST

AK then you do a /clear and voila clean chat box

AdminShade November 21 2009 9:54 AM EST

Carnage Blender is very clear on it's policy. Chat ops and Admins should never use /ignore to block out possible malicious content.

At a side notice, should all other players just /ignore everybody to prevent them from using profanity either? I think not, people should be conscious of what they say to each other and people have been fined for such things before.

Please stop the 'oh this is ridiculous' talks. It has nothing to do with you.

DoS November 21 2009 10:11 AM EST

Bummer :\

Zenai [Ministry of Pain] November 21 2009 10:14 AM EST

It is not ridiculous but there should be a line no matter where you are talking. I feel as long as you define those lines first then subsequent actions should be taken. E.G. Joe Bob uses Expletive #1 you tell them please do not use any profanity. They do it again a warning of a /kick, a third time they receive said /kick. They use profanity again another /kick, after 2 /kicks they should receive a/kill. Admins should be notified and the player fined how they see fit. To me that is acceptable.

Side Note: Ranger I do believe none of this would have gone this far if you had simply left the man alone in the first place. Both in chat and threads. I agree with your overall standpoint on the situation but not how you are going about it. That's just my personal opinion.

AdminShade November 21 2009 10:31 AM EST

Kicks and kills in my honest opinion are decent tools for public chat. However some terms should just not be used, hence the fine. If the wordings were less severe, this thread might indeed just not have been made.

KittehShinobu November 21 2009 4:09 PM EST

Death threats, overly malicious threats, excessive colorful cursing directed maliciously towards one person or many in hate or anger.. no matter WHERE they happen to be, still warrents an admin's attention... IF ONLY THIS WERE AVAILABLE WHEN I HAD A MALICIOUS STALKER 2-3 Years ago... T_T but oh well, let sleeping dogs lie I guess. ^_^ But back to the point. It warrents intervention to prevent a good player from quitting because of the bullying hate. It doesnt matter if it was or was not in Private Messages, what mattered was the intent of the content of maliciousness being directed. ^_^So Shadie has a point.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- November 21 2009 4:13 PM EST

I'm more interested in how much the total fine was >)

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- November 21 2009 4:14 PM EST

rrowland (Powerpuff) TourneyPrizes (TourneyPrizes) $200000 -- PG fine - Shade 8:02 AM EST

Not ... A ... Big ... Deal ...

I was expecting a large number haha.

AdminShade November 21 2009 5:11 PM EST

bump, see 1st post. Now put away all the pitchforks.

QBRanger November 21 2009 5:12 PM EST

I guess using profanity in PM that I would not even use to a sailor is OK now.

One wonders how things are done.

QBRanger November 21 2009 5:33 PM EST

So I have a Q:

Is it now allowable to curse to someone in PM such vile saying that would make a sailor blush?

With just a strict talking to as the only punishment?

I really now want to know what is allowed.

Lord Bob November 21 2009 5:40 PM EST

"I guess using profanity in PM that I would not even use to a sailor is OK now."

As it should be.

Harassment and attacks should be punished, not words.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] November 21 2009 5:41 PM EST

If you harass an admin or an op in PM, expect to be /killed, 48!'d, or have similar punishments given out.

If someone is harassing you in PM or CM, inform an admin as this may be a common complaint, but first and foremost you should /ignore that person. This function exists for a purpose.

Lord Bob November 21 2009 5:48 PM EST

"but first and foremost you should /ignore that person."

I wish I would have known about that feature in chat mail a few months ago. So how do you use it? Just go the user's member page and type "/ignore" in their mail text box?

AdminTal Destra [C and S Forgery Lmtd.] November 21 2009 5:51 PM EST

open chat type /ignore name, and voila CMs don't work

Lord Bob November 21 2009 5:56 PM EST

Thanks Tal!

Mikel November 21 2009 6:03 PM EST

Ignore is stupid, we shouldn't have to be forced to ignore someone.
They should conform to the rules.

Lord Bob November 21 2009 6:14 PM EST

Not everyone does, which is why ignore is a helpful tool.

By your logic, we shouldn't need police either. Everyone should just follow the law.

iBananco [Blue Army] November 21 2009 6:17 PM EST

That's not really a valid argument, because ops are analogous to police. Ignore is more like a gun in your home.

Mikel November 21 2009 6:18 PM EST

and so by choosing to use Ignore, we enable people to continue to get away with poor behavior.

BootyGod November 21 2009 6:37 PM EST

I consider this all very funny. Ranger can't handle being sworn at in PM yet, my good friend Ranger, did you not once swear maliciously at me in my PM box?

Lord Bob November 21 2009 6:49 PM EST

"Ignore is more like a gun in your home."

Meh. Either way, we need those too.

QBRanger November 21 2009 10:13 PM EST

Yes, GW and paid the price for it.

I expect the same when done to me.

AdminNightStrike November 21 2009 10:44 PM EST

LB, you're *pro* guns?

QBsutekh137 November 22 2009 1:52 AM EST

This thread is making me uncomfortable and is full of personal jabs.

It should be closed to new posts.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 [SHIELD] November 22 2009 1:58 AM EST

Yeah well my 333 is better than your 137.

I'm calling you out.

QBOddBird November 22 2009 3:41 PM EST

"This thread is making me uncomfortable and is full of personal jabs."

Par for the course here at CB, unfortunately, and I agree that the thread should be closed. There's no legitimate discussion here, only argument and personal attacks. There's no need to leave it open to public commentary.

(I never know why such threads are left open for public commentary in the first place, TBH.)
This thread is closed to new posts.