T36: The Gridiron (in Contests)

Welcome to the gridiron. You and 12 of your fellow blenders will engage in a ruthless battle for supremacy.


This is a team tournament, each team has the following positions to be filled.


Quarterback (1)

Center (1)
Offensive Guard (2)
Offensive Tackle (2)

Halfback (1)
Fullback (1)

Wide Receiver (2)
Tight End (2)

Kicker (1)

Your team will earn points based on the score of each player, using the following model.

Quarterback related points:


Every 50k score the quarterback has earns 6 points.

If the kicker can match the quarterback's score, each 6 point gain becomes 7 points. For every 50k score the kicker has below the quarterback, one of these extra points is deducted. The kicker must match the cumulative score of the quarterback, including score gained from synergies. (QB score = WR score + QB score)

For every 300k score a wide receiver has, 100k is added to the quarterback's score.

The center must match the non-cumulative score of the Quarterback. For every 100k score below the quarterback, the opposing team gains 7 points.



Halfback related points:


Every 200k score that the halfback has earns 7 points.

Every 200k score that the full back has adds 100k score to the halfback.

Scores of the Offensive Guards, and Offensive Tackles are added to the halfback's score.

The Tight end's score is added to the Full backs' score.



All scores will be rounded to the closest 50k for scoring reasons.

There are no tattoos permitted, all else is OK.


Your character name MUST follow the following setup:
[Teamname]Yourname[Position (QB, HB, FB, OG, OT, C, WR, TE)]


The tournament will begin on the 7th at noon, and end on the 14th at noon. You have until the 6th to post your FULL roster. First two people to request a team will be able to set the team name and their own position, as well as accept recruits.

There will be a BA cap of 3000 and 200 starting BA.


Prizes:

The winning team will distribute the following prizes among its members, any prize disputes will be settled via a random draw run by myself.


A Rune of Enlightenment
A Rune of Enlightenment
A Rune of Enlightenment
An Assassin's Crossbow [4x25] (+10)
A Blade of Thuringwethil [73x3] (+1)
A Tattoo of Augmentation lvl 2,458,710
A Rune of Balrog Flame lvl 973,209
$1,000,000
$1,000,000
$1,000,000
$1,000,000
$1,000,000
$1,000,000



The losing team will earn 100k each.

Teams:

Team Blender.

Name	Position
Ranger	Quarterback
AG_Titan	Center
GogetaSS4	Offensive Guard
SHD	Offensive Guard
DAS_bro	Offensive Tackle
DemonOfCandyLand	Offensive Tackle
Fatality	Halfback
Raveshaw	Fullback
DoS	Wide Receiver
Rawr	Wide Receiver
Tal_Destra	Tight End
Badfish	Tight End
SerialKiller	Kicker

Team Awesome

Name	Position
TheHatchetman	Quarterback
novice	Center
BluBBen	Offensive Guard
Soxjr	Offensive Guard
AdminShade	Offensive Tackle
Bob Villa	Offensive Tackle
Totally_Kyle	Halfback
QBurp	Fullback
Nemerizt	Wide Receiver
DH	Wide Receiver
Hakai	Tight End
KnightWarrior	Tight End
Newlin	Kicker

I call on the members of Team Awesome to come and play with me (if you have the time available and wish to do so) !

Interesting contest. Though, currently, my brain is hurting...

Blenders, Tight End

dont wanna be QB

Chatmail me to join my team.

I might join, not sure as what though because I'm not an American Football lover.

I'm in just let me know if anyone wants me on their team

btw - amazing idea for a tourney. I am excited :D

/bow

When does this start?

"The tournament will begin on the 7th at noon, and end on the 14th at noon."

Is the BA Cap the max we can use or the minimum we have to use?

Max, and ooohh baby, Team Awesome is in some trouble.

Pft.


Team Awesome has yet to fail to win a tournament we wanted to win. That's right! If we lost it, we MEANT to!


wepwnzyoo

Also - naming items is no longer allowed.

I am looking for a team

"Also - naming items is no longer allowed."

is that a rule for all tournaments that needs to be added to the tournament info wiki page?

Yes it is, I'll add it.

Final Roster!

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Team Blender.

Name	Position
Ranger	Quarterback
AG_Titan	Center
GogetaSS4	Offensive Guard
SHD	Offensive Guard
DAS_bro	Offensive Tackle
DoS	Offensive Tackle
Fat1lity	Halfback
Raveshaw	Fullback
DemonOfCandyland	Wide Receiver
Rawr	Wide Receiver
Tal_Destra	Tight End
Badfish	Tight End
SerialKiller	Kicker

Yeah I want in on this...I call QB for another team

only 2 teams and they are

Team Blender (the best one)
and
Team Awesome (so phail its not even formed yet)

I am going to be a tight end for Team Awesome. :D

TH will be playing TE as well for TA ^_^

Wait a minute... are we doing Power-I formation, or split backs? And in either case, how can we explain the double Tight End thing?

I'm in for Team Awesome. And I guess I'll play halfback, unless the captain would prefer otherwise.

No real football explanation for it, just opening up more slots for players :)

You may join Team Awesome, and I'm totally good with you being the Halfback.

I'm still waiting to see if the other Team Awesome members, novice and DrAcO, are interested in joining.

Hate to double post, but:

I'll take QB for my team.

Also, I call myself as Tebow before Ranger can. >:D

I am willing to join. I finally have a reliable enough connection that I wouldn't just be a liability. It has been a while since I have really played in a tourney, but I'm ready to do something again.

I would love to play!

If not the teams are full already... then I'll just start a turny char and farm the team I like the least >:-D

If you are not on a team I will have to retire your character for fairness, if there are significant amounts of people who wish to participate but both teams are full, I will open up more slots per team.

I think you should reduce the amount of players per team for more team competition.


Anyone who want's me in their team, give me a sign!

I want you in my team Shade! Problem is that I don't got any..

So I guess so far Team Awesome is:
Me
Hatch
Kyle
Urp,
Nem
Blubben
Shade

With a max of 13 players (?) we still need 6 more...who's in?

Shade and BluBBen are likely on board with TA, I'll make sure it's cool with OB.

/me needs to read all the posts fully

"If you are not on a team I will have to retire your character for fairness, if there are significant amounts of people who wish to participate but both teams are full, I will open up more slots per team."

methinks we need cheerleaders, lots of em too! seriously though you could have unlimited cheerleaders and average their score or somesuch.

So far Team Awesome has:

Novice at Center
OB at QB
Hakai at Tight End
Hatchet at Tight End
Kyle at Halfback
Nemerizt and BluBBen may post the position of their choice
Shade may join TA if he likes :)

DrAcO, our Team Awesome regular, will not be joining us this tourney. *sadface*

So there are 4-5 slots available.

Im taking wide receiver for TA.

I'll go for Offensive Guard =)

I want the other Wide Receiver slot please :) thanks

I could join TA :)

I would like to join TA

i wanna join any team available just cm me!

I would just like to bump this.

Any updates, Team Awesome?

Team Awesome

Name	Position
TheHatchetman	Quarterback
novice	Center
BluBBen	Offensive Guard
	Offensive Guard
	Offensive Tackle
	Offensive Tackle
Totally_Kyle	Halfback
	Fullback
Nemerizt	Wide Receiver
OB	Tight End
Hakai	Tight End
	Kicker

We also have Shade and Newlin on our team, but they have yet to specify a position.

i'd like to participate, just let me know.

to whoever conceived this, I think it's a great idea. Imo it would've been even better if there was some sort of interaction between teams - eg. if a defensive tackle has >80% victories over the other team's QB (over say 200 battles), then the team with the strong tackler gets points for having a good "blitz"... (I know there aren't any D tackles, just making a point).


Anyway, this is well timed and should be pretty interesting.

Hatch is our QB now?

Yep. We switched out, as the QB needs to be able to rise in score quickly, and I have to work on Sat/Sun nights.

I'd like to participate, but I am in the same situation as ob and have other things to do also. If there's room cm me =D.

I talked to Bob(kefeck) earlier and he's joining us; Rubberduck, if you decide to accept the invitation, please feel free to post. I think you'd make a great kicker, but the position you choose is up to you. :)

I need a team, someone please start 1 new team and invite me!

KW there are only 2 teams total

If there are enough people, why not 3 teams?

Hell they wont even let people on their team to fill theirs up...I've posted twice about joining and I think im talking to myself...guess this tournament isn't open to everyone :( Anyway, I withdrawal my non-existent offer to join

Totally_Kyle Halfback
Fullback
Nemerizt Wide Receiver
OB Tight End
Hakai Tight End


Notice only one WR slot... I think ya just got edited out upon posting by accident or something :P Soxjr will also be signing on as our other Guard ^_^

My Name is Spelled wrong. :(

slayer did it not i gogeta

"We also have Shade and Newlin on our team, but they have yet to specify a position."

I'll be an Offensive Tackle then :)

Team Awesome

Name	Position
TheHatchetman	Quarterback
novice	Center
BluBBen	Offensive Guard
	Offensive Guard
Shade	Offensive Tackle
	Offensive Tackle
Totally_Kyle	Halfback
	Fullback
Nemerizt	Wide Receiver
OB	Tight End
Hakai	Tight End
	Kicker

We also have Newlin on our team, but he has yet to specify a position.

i'll be an offensive tackle, also.

i'll be an offensive guard?

To Dinh and everyone else wondering why they were not added as soon as the request was made: We had multiple CMs already out asking certain people if they were interested in joining our team. We were trying not to give spots away until we knew who was in and who was not. We are still awaiting 2 people to respond. Newlin, for his position, and another person for whether or not they're joining us. There's no need to take it personal.

I will take which ever position needs filling

There is an urge to yell out PG! Good one Newlin ;)

Dude someone please start a new team, i see lots of people wanna join but have no place.

i would do it but my english is not that good.

i really wanna play this tourney coz i think gonna be fun.

come on !

Newlin: with Bob taking OT, that leaves OG, Fullback, and Kicker as the slots. You can choose whichever you'd like.


On that note: if anyone on the team feels they can step up to Kicker and keep up with the QBs score, feel free to change your position. If you'd prefer a different position, again, feel free...nothing is really set in stone until we're posted for the tourney.

I keep feeling like I won't be active for the tournament... but 2000 BA with 200 starting BA over 7 days is easy.

I will take kicker then.

There are still exactly two unresponded CMs out.

If I don't hear anything back on both of them within an hour or so, or if either is uninterested, KW, then by all means you will be first in line for that open spot.

i am ready to rock Sir!
i hope \o/

Let me know if you want Offensive Guard or Fullback.

i wanna be offensive guard

Team Awesome

Name	Position
TheHatchetman	Quarterback
novice	Center
BluBBen	Offensive Guard
Soxjr	Offensive Guard
AdminShade	Offensive Tackle
Bob Villa	Offensive Tackle
Totally_Kyle	Halfback
QBurp	Fullback
Nemerizt	Wide Receiver
DH	Wide Receiver
Hakai	Tight End
KnightWarrior	Tight End
Newlin	Kicker

Final Update. Team Awesome complete.

Out of curiosity, if anyone wants to shift position before the Tourney officially starts, can they?

Slare, your table header is hideously colored. You need to do something about that poor fashion taste.

For all Team Awesome members: here is our logo, set this as your char. pic when you make your tourney character!

Slayer fails at table-making. Mine was way betterer

I copy and pasted yours.

No you didn't! You <i>changed</i> things! I can tell xD My names are pretty navy and bolded and my team name was centered! lol

Whoo!! Go, Team Awesome, Go!!

And don't forget to change your pics! ;D

Team Awesome! Rock and Roll!

Since both teams have 13 people in them, I've fixed a few details in the initial post:

Teams need 2 Offensive Guards and 2 Offensive Tackles.

So we are allowed to use the auctions right?

Auctions are OK

Wish I could transfer my spare gear to my character though.

IF everyone could do that it wouldn't be fun any more :)

if there is a team looking for an player to join, im available.

In all seriousness, this whole "You must train! It's for your own good!" thing should be removed from the tournament characters.

I agree it's stupid. I just want to burn BA not have to be told to train when I don't want to.

Decay, yay or nay?

Yay

Don't listen to Slayer. He's just trying to trick you so you break the rules and then he will ban you from all the tourneys for the rest of your life...!!!! :0

Yeah, he's mean like that. xD

I'm gonna use decay.

This tourny is just a glorified version of producing a weighted average score of the team players, with small penalties for certain player not keeping up. The scoring is horribly confusing, and I am sort of glad I am not in it.

Cool.

I like the tourney, its so interesting and there are so many components to the scoring! Very fun.

Apparently we're 1 player short, Soxjr hasn't made a character yet :(

Sorry my tourney isn't up to your standards, PK.

You may replace Sox or wait until he creates a character, team leaders choice.

It's fine, no need to replace Sox.

Dinh already have a T character made.

Perhaps she can replace Sox.

Perhaps He*

Dinh is a he, and as of very late last night, Sox was in chat, telling novice he had to work, but was planning to start a character today. Not positive though if that's still the case.

Oops my very bad.

Just assumed by the picture.

Don't worry Ranger, you're not the first, lol. That's his gf I believe.

I, too, am glad you aren't playing, PK. Your attitude by itself would suck all the fun out of this tournament.

Tournament Rules

Please read and abide by all these rules - some of you have already broken one in particular, involving the use of auctions to transfer items. Disqualification will not occur, however both users involved will be fined the price of the auction transaction.

To clarify, DECAY IS ALLOWED, however all rules regarding auctions are in effect.

/me apologises for not knowing those basic Tournament rules... :$



little off topic: does Team Awesome have a final word on the joining of Soxjr or having a replacement (if allowed) ?

Sox is working an overtime shift, but intends to begin burning BA on Monday morning. Since there's a 3000 BA cap, I don't see a problem with that, personally. If anyone disagrees, however, please post otherwise. :)

I understand his situation, as my work has been interfering with my tournament play as well.

complete nps on my behalf, I've read a bit of his situation. Considering the BA cap there is no problem, I just wanted some information and if he wouldn't be able to join I would want some answer as to if a replacement would be allowed. :)


In other words: Go Soxjr! :)

Sorry bout that I missed that in the rules too

Oh oops, sorry Slayer. Thanks for outbid.

How do we know what our current BA useage is?

http://www.carnageblender.com/inspect_opponent.tcl?opponent_id=129227&opponent_name=%7bBlender%7dGogeta%7bOG%7d

battles challenged on the right hand side.

Not to jump the gun here but wouldnt it be Battles Total?

bah nevermind

The bidding war is on!!!

I win ^_^

I fail... I bid on an ax auction without checking who was selling.

Are we going to be able to even get to 300k score? We're in the low 100k's and we've spent half our BA cap already...

If we start getting better targets, or finding them, then most likely yes :p

If not, then some characters / positions just don't give any points :p

Most of us are just 1/2 way through our BA.

And most have not yet bought all their minions.

By the end of the tourney, scores will be over 300k.

Most of us also haven't broken even halfway into our bag of tricks ^_^ Cheating (and anything near borderline) aside, There's still a lot of moves to be made ^_^

meant to end that last post with the sentence "I would not be at all surprised to see several scores north of a mil"

Q:

Since "anything goes" is it legal to use a normal character to bid on something in auctions to prevent a T character from getting it?

Q:

Is it legal to ask someone else, not in the tourney to buy an item from a T character at an inflated, but still within normal limit price?

i could've sworn that slayer made a rule regarding auction manipulation for the benefit of t characters, i cannot find the post nor can i find it in the tournament wiki pages though. : (

From the General Rules Guideline:

"These rules are meant to prevent a players normal wealth and status from affecting the outcome of a tournament. If you do something to affect the outcome of a tournament with a non-tournament character, or with non-tournament money, you may be disqualified."

here is one quote from the t33 rule thread, it never seems to have made it into the general rules though:

"since you can now disenchant that money is even more easily converted to liquid cash, and many of the tournaments have pretty large bonuses attached to them, I am going to say no, you should not be auctioning items off of your Tourney char to be purchased by a normal character at any time."

Q:

Since "anything goes" is it legal to use a normal character to bid on something in auctions to prevent a T character from getting it?

A: No.

Q:

Is it legal to ask someone else, not in the tourney to buy an item from a T character at an inflated, but still within normal limit price?

A: Dude brings up a good point - I have said something on this before, and it will be added to the wiki. In general, tourney characters should not even be putting items up to auction in the first place.

As far as T characters not putting items in auctions let me bring up a few points.

1) I bought a light xbow to test. 25k worth and now cannot sell it to the store. So auctions is the only way for me to try to get some money back. Perhaps someone will buy it since it sells to the store for 21k.

It is incredible I could not even sell my base whip back to the store.

2) Right now my T character is a mage. I bought AGs for it. Now I want to be a tank or possible tank. So what should I do with those AGs? They are worth over 1 million. Do I eat the cost and call it a day? That would be complete garbage.

I'll work on a solution for this, we'll see.

I would more than willing to purchase the AG's from ranger...:)

a separate tournament store that slayer can stock with specific or general items that will always buy items back would be the best solution especially if it could be coded so that tournament characters could only use this store.

I think that would be really nice, dudemus.


Especially for those tournaments that require use of certain items.

So would I, I need AG's.

it appears i should've posted the whole quote from slayer from the other thread for those asking for ranger's gloves. so here it is in its complete form:

"3D's response is pretty much the reason against auctioning off rare items from a tournament character. Tournament money is supposed to remain separate from normal money as much as possible, since you can now disenchant that money is even more easily converted to liquid cash, and many of the tournaments have pretty large bonuses attached to them, I am going to say no, you should not be auctioning items off of your Tourney char to be purchased by a normal character at any time."

I think the people who were willing to buy Ranger's AG's were thinking about buying them with tournament money.

Unless I misunderstood them, and/or your post.

I want it for my tourney character.

i may have misunerstood as well. sorrry if i did.

adding to the store idea. it would just need to have base items of each type allowed in the tournament and selected by slayer and just each item as it is bought so that it is always stocked(including lesser tats if allowed). it would also have the items availalbe that it had repurchased for the duration of the tournament.

it could buy back items at the same rate as the current store without restrictions. it would relist them at the same rate as is done with the current stores as well. there would also be no purchase time limits as we have now.

to clarify the earlier post, only t chars could use this store and it would be the only allowed trade method for them.

There is no way for tournament characters to transfer between eachother.

Ok, this is the rule that will go into the wiki:

You may auction any non-rare item as a tournament character, in addition, you may auction rares, as long as they are fully disenchanted.


In addition, I will ask Jon if perhaps the resell to store for non rares can be reconsidered.

I think it would be ideal if you could transfer between your teammates during a tourney. This would allow for better teamwork and use of money and heightened interaction among teams. That takes care of the reselling of items as well (assuming others on your team want em)

good solution slayer, especially since it needs no new coding! ; )

Nice solution.

Please twist Jon's arm to let us resell non-rares back to the store.

i was going to add to the wiki, but need a clarification:

"You may auction any non-rare item as a tournament character, in addition, you may auction rares, as long as they are fully disenchanted."

should that first part read "You many not auction any non-rare item..." or are you actually going against the earlier rule now?

Non rare auctions are fine.

'tis posted!

so Hatch, how are you going to get over 1m score?

Go. Go. Team Blender!!!

Oh how I wish I could use a tat. *Cries*

Maybe divide all the numbers in half?

Do tourney charactors affect ba price for your main?

No

Just wondering, anyone getting a challenge bonus over 70%?

I'm getting about 72%

for this tournament...

you're right i'm lying, I'm not even in this tourney...

About 40%

Ugh mine are horrible, like 10-30%.

i'm running high 60's low 70's...

just curious, is transferring item between team legal? I mean it is probably worthwhile to move equipment to the member with more "valuable" position or to catch up by fighting higher MPR. (I am not involved in the tourny)

You can't transfer items to or from a tourney character.

Can I ask something about Ranger's complaint?

I thought the whole point of a tournament, with the prizes and such was to make you really think through all your decisions. And if that is truly the case, shouldn't you be extra responsible for each action?

I agree. Are we really seeing a change in the rules just because Ranger can't pick between a mage and a tank? I mean, that rule was there so you had to be careful about your purchases...

I hired my minions early, but now that i think about it, i want more concentration into a single minion... can you put my XP back where it would be if i never hired and give me my money back?

I'm not sure why it isn't allowed to sell items to the store though.

I'm not sure either, but rules shouldn't be changed in the middle of the tourny just because one person cries about them...

lol Hatch I don't think it works that way.

No way! You mean if he makes a mistake in the tourney, he can't just take it back? That would be total garbage.

Gogeta, I think you missed Hatchet's point...

Yeah OB, I'm serious. You have to follow the rules! I don't know why, stupid isn't it?

There is a difference between a rule that intentionally creates choices and strategy, and one that creates inconveniences and compounds the poor design of the way tourney characters can use stores.

I'm not sure anyone was referring to anything that had to do with the store, Slayer.

I think people are moaning about my problem.

If it is so problematic, I can keep the freaking alatar's and we can enact that rule for the next tourney.

Remember--- Don't poke the bear.

Yah, ranger's right, it's not a problem with his choices merely a problem with the setup. I couldn't sell back my bow, sword, shield or even cuirass to the store, all of which I bought from the store. Also, when you stated tourney characters shouldn't sell to the store, you should check out what this message says "A Steel Cuirass [29] (+7) (tournament characters may not sell valuable items directly to the store. use auctions instead)" So, shouldn't we use auctions, or that's what the game tells you to do.

I think they are referring to my other problem. buying a rare and not being able to change ones mind and auction it back.

A huge difference from hiring minons at the wrong time.

Far as non-rares go I'm pretty sure nobody has a problem with them being sold to the store...

Auctions are touchy due to the ability to inflate the price. Looking at both rosters, I'm not seeing anybody that I think would ever even attempt to cheat the system this way, but expressly allowing it kinda leaves it wide open for abuse.

And yeah, my hiring comparison was a bit of a stretch, but stillalong the lines of the point it was trying to convey which was that if you're going to spend about a third of your potential tournament money on something, you'd better be damn sure that either a) it's worth it, or b) you don't need the money for your end plan. I'm of the opinion that with only a week to play, you should have some idea of how your final setup will be before you even create the char.

The importance of every single BA is intensified, hiring times are key, and less than 1k XP can mean the difference between a win and a loss. Why shouldn't purchases work the same way?

Strat changes occur all the time. What works or you think will work in the beginning may be utter garbage at the end.

To be stuck with a rare, and an expensive one, based upon a theory of what will or not work is a poor way to run a tourney.

With minions and MPR, one can hire and unhire, train and untrain all day. There is no basis for a comparison of minions to rares that makes any sense to me.

But if this is how CB wants tourneys to be run, thats cool. Just do not expect much participation with these Draconian type of rules.

IMO, tourneys should be just like normal play. Expect for it is a closed system and any abuses have to be dealt with immediately.

"To be stuck with a rare, and an expensive one, based upon a theory of what will or not work is a poor way to run a tourney. "

Poor way to participate* the person running the tourney doesn't decide whether or not you will purchase a rare.

Gentlemen, I give you the concept of:

High Risk/High Reward

And I give you the concept of:

If it sucks, nobody will play.

Keep in mind opinions and facts are entirely different things, Ranger.

Just because you think something sucks doesn't necessarily mean it does, despite your opinion and mindset being the overarching rule of the universe. I poke at thee, Bear.

What's the current score?

OB,

We have a tough enough time getting people to play in tournaments. Unless the rewards are outstanding.

Rules like this one will stop me from playing in most future ones.

I like T characters as a way to test things out. In addition to the other obvious reasons.

But to make a rule that you have to choose your strategy at the beginning of a tournament and stay with it is garbage. Choose early or lose all the NW of equipment you buy, is contrary to the way CB is.

CB is a fluid game where one gets to change strategies and even minions. At a cost of course, but this draconian rule takes a lot of the fun out of tournaments.

And others who I have chatted with, feel the same way. We may be a minority, however I do have facts that rules like these discourage people from playing.

I have not played in a tourney for a while. I had no idea how much money one can make with such a huge bonus. So I thought mage would be the way to go. So I bought the AGs. Now I find I should have enough money to play a tank. But with this rule, it is impossible for me to try to play one as I would be almost 1M CB behind.

Is this fair that all those who participated in past tourneys get such a huge advantage? I can see the Yes answer as "we have played and our experience matters". However, how does that encourage people to start playing tournaments?

If that is the rule for this tourney, so be it. But I can tell you, it will likely be the last one I will play in. While I like to plan ahead, things are so fluid that the inability to change on the fly is a big negative to my future participation.

And OB,

I hold no animosity to you or Hatch or anyone else who posted about this rule in the thread.

It is the rule and I did not know about it before I started the tourney, which is my bad 100%. I think it is a poor one that hurts participation in the game, but that is my point of view only. Shared by a few others that let me know via chats here and there.

I am, however, trying to state why this rule is bad and makes for a bad tourney experience. Just that.

"But to make a rule that you have to choose your strategy at the beginning of a tournament and stay with it is garbage. Choose early or lose all the NW of equipment you buy, is contrary to the way CB is. "

But see, that's not the issue here. Choosing to purchase a rare to go with your strategy is not a necessity, and choosing your strategy at the beginning and sticking with it is not at all a rule. I've changed from mage to tank multiple times this tournament - as have several others - without worry about NW lost or gained.

You're trying to build an argument with no basis. Just because you bought a pair of AG doesn't mean you MUST stay mage the entire game, nor does buying a Mageseeker mean I may never be anything but a tank for the remainder of this tournament. HOWEVER, it is a gamble of NW toward one end of the spectrum with the expectation that the strategy you are putting such resources toward will be superior.

I hate to channel sut, but you're building a strawman argument - the one you are arguing is not truly even related to the debate at hand.

At the begining of this tourney I scraped my strat after I had already gotten to like 70k score and went all the way back down to 20k because I went to single minion then I decided I wanted to go back to 3 minion so I had to build myself back up so honestly, I think since I had to do it I don't find it fair that someone else gets a free ride just because he whines that he's gonna lose xp.

OB,

That is fine.

I am not building a straw man whatever you call it.

I am stating my opinion as to why this rule stinks. To go tank now, in this tourney would put me 1M NW way behind. Then if that does not work, where are I? With a compound at 2M NW that is a paperweight. To be able to sell items makes for a more fluid transition to other strategies.

With all the money T characters get, rares are 100% part of the tourney. And in some cases essential to winning.

That Mageseeker you have is a killer item. One that may very well win the tourney for your team.

But to say my arguments have no basis is to not even read or understand them. Analogous to the "I am rubber, you are glue" type of statement.

Take a few minutes to actually read what I typed. I understand it is the rule. However, again, I will likely not participate in many more tourneys due to it. Which may make most people very happy. :)

I'll simply end my piece with this:

The rule that you can't make multiple accounts stinks to a lot of people, but that does not make it a poor rule.

"The rule that you can't make multiple accounts stinks to a lot of people"

Who thinks this rule stinks? Cheaters maybe..

Did we just get a BA refresh?

I think so, cause mine sure did.

How do I know if I've used my 3000 BA or how much I have left to use?

Click Manage

Click on your T character

View the battles challenged in the top right.

I see, thanks.

What is the logic behind not being able to buy things in auctions from other folks in the tourney?

To prevent shuffling of money.

IE, I put a compound bow with NW of 1k in auctions and my teammate then buys it for 1M CB2.

That is an extreme example but imagine my Ags being sold. I paid 900k for them, but if someone would buy them for 1.75M would that be so out of line?

I mean like our current situation, you've bid on a Gi I put up.. this is disallowed by the current rules.

I thought you were typing about a T character putting up an auction.

I bid on that auction after I saw another character in the Tourney bid on it. So I thought it was then legal.

I have no idea anymore about what is right/wrong/other in tournies.

So if someone who was not in the tourney put up an item for auction I could bid on it, however, if someone participating in the auction puts up an it I cannot?

What the heck?

And if I violated the rules of the auction, then DQ me from the tourney.

Seems I have a few CM's blasting my bid as something evil and morally wrong.

Evil? hahah

Slayer made clear earlier that it wasn't a DQ offense... just a fine.

if the system allows bidding on tournament auctions by tournament characters and it is against the rules now, can we at least get some kind of flag on auctions to make it easier to miss the ones that are created by tournament characters?

QBRanger 2:29 PM EST And if I violated the rules of the auction, then DQ me from the tourney.


FYI: Slayer stated very clearly that bidding on an item with your Tournament Character on an item which is being auctioned by another Tournament Participant is not allowed.

Admin{CB1}Slayer333 February 8 4:53 PM EST
Tournament Rules

Please read and abide by all these rules - some of you have already broken one in particular, involving the use of auctions to transfer items. Disqualification will not occur, however both users involved will be fined the price of the auction transaction.



I myself and a few other have been fined for these things during this tournament already so I cannot imagine you being treated differently. You cannot say that you were not warned on beforehand.

So will the fine be over 400K?

ANd I assume all those who bid in that auction will be fined as well.

And I 100% agree with dudemus' suggestion.

Put a flag on these auctions.

I did not even notice who put up the auction, I just looked at the item in question and decided it was a good deal.

I also did not notice who auctioned it and that was my own fault.

Also Kyle should also be fined, naturally.

The height of the fine however, is up to Slayer I think.

If you do not win the auction, no harm, no foul - because I outbid every other player who had similar circumstances, I will do the same here.

I will see what can be done about having a flag placed on auctions involving tournament players.

As a personal fine I will buy the CGI in auctions (provided nobody outbids me) and then give it to Tourney Prizes.

Problem then is that you can't outbid your own tourney char and you can't send it to TP however... :$

But it's a kind gesture nonetheless.

He bid with his normal character, Shade.

If my T character had the highest bid my regular character cannot overbid it.

However.... Since Slayer overbid my T character, my normal one then overbid him. No reason he should use his own CB2 for my mistake.

The nice gesture was Slayers.

Battles Total 3,030
may i continue fighting or should i stop?
saw somewhere ba cap of 3000 ?

KW you went over the limit stop now

KW, no, Tal is incorrect. You may still keep fighting:

Largest Blow 1,817
Battles Total 3,030
... Challenged 2,581
... Won 2,328
Winning Streak 11

The number that can't exceed 3,000 is in bold. The battles total is your battles challenged plus all the battles other people have challenged against you.
However, I recommend that you at least stop fighting for today, as you also do not want to be the first to reach 3,000, with 2 days to go. Join Awesome Huddle if you have any further questions, KW.

the tournaments do have a battle cap that it won't let ya go past.

Notice to all Team Blender members, please stop attacking your teammates at 12:00 PM on Friday the 13.

I haven't been either way, they've been attacking me however.

Any Idea what the current score is?

Slayer, I have a couple of questions about scoring, if you'll indulge me.

1. Does rounding to the nearest 50k take place before adding scores? (For example, would a Tackle with 28k score add 50k score to a halfback, or add 28k, to then be rounded with the halfback's total score?)

2. "For every 300k score a wide receiver has, 100k is added to the quarterback's score." There are two WRs per team. If each WR has approximately 150k score, are they added together to make 300k, therefore adding 100k to the QB's score, or are they both insignificant in the total?

3. "Every 200k score that the full back has adds 100k score to the halfback."
If an FB score is, say 500k, does this add 200k score to the HB, or 250k? In other words, is it strictly 100k for every 200k, or is it just half?
I guess this could also be asked of the WRs.

I don't understand why my own teammates have to keep farming me when WE ARE ON THE SAME TEAM!!!

if you did understand, you wouldn't complain ~_^

You get rewards when you are the defender too? just get your score back up, you get a little extra XP.

I'm just waiting for the longest final play in history! ;)

Go Awesome!

Everything gets added, then rounded.

Can everyone on team blender meet at 11:00 AM tomorrow for some strategy

First of all Gogeta, they weren't attacking after the designated time.
2nd of all, you were farming SHD and you're talking about people attacking you?

He was farming me first, and then I finally beat him and he told me to farm him so he could fight lower people.

It really doesn't matter who was farming who first, the point is that Team Blender was supposed to stop attacking their teammates on the last day and SHD didn't attack you on the last day.

Yes, but DemonOfCandyland has been farming me all morning.

come on guys ! argument in chatmail, we are a team, the winning team :)
and Gogetta defeat the biggest team awesome challenge bonus opponent you can.
ok go Team Blender go
hey there is a meeting in chat tomorrow at 11:00 am for team blender clan, and dont worry gogetta we will keep you inform...

I'm not gonna be able to make it because of the timezone difference.

Someone wanna give a quick rundown of what the current score is?

Team Awesome 8 million points.

Team Blender 5 points.

;p
(no, I have no idea)

I've just calculated the current score but I'm not publishing it :)

who's winning?

atm nobody is winning

I am sure scores will change radically in the last 10 min of the tourney that any prognostication now is certainly to be useless.

Slayer, out of curiosity - is there any policy on abusing the retraining score bug?

I think it is fair to expect that nobody uses any bugs.

It's not really a bug, they are simply untraining to lose score.

what's the retraining bug?

Is it? /me wonders...

I understand it is a feature, though it does lead to some potential tourny problems.

Awesome Slayer, that was the response I was hoping for. I just wanted to make sure of that before tourney's end.

I'm positive that no one on Team Blender used the bug.

2 minutes left!

TIME!

Good fighting guys.

Team Awesome!

BLENDER

I had a lot of fun, guys!! ^_^

Grats to whoever won!!
Go Team Awesome! You guys were AWESOME! lol

Thanks Slayer!

This was a fun tourney,

Team ones are always fun.

*crosses fingers*

Indeed, this was the funnest tourney EVAR

It was a tough tournament and I've enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed my first tournament!

I'll be back for the next one I hope!

Close game, well played everyone!


Scores:


Team Awesome comes in with a score of 201 points!

Team Blender comes in with a score of 219 points!


Team Blender wins!
Please post a full list of who will receive what prize.

TEAM BLENDER woo!

Good Job Team Blender! Congrats Team Blender.

Team Blender Woo! (what? I can't cheer too??)

Well played!

can we have the full details of the points by team / player ? please

Nice Gridirion everyone it was really fun. Thanks to everyone who had something to do with it.

but i am happy its over(and my family too including the cat..) Tournament require more energy than normal everyday CB play..back to ''normal'' life now. ok see you all in chat.

this is what i have so far:

1. DoS ToA
2. Ranger 1m
3. SK RoBF
4. Fatality ??
5. SHD BoTh
6. Rawr 1m
7. DoCandy ??
8. Tal RoE
9. Titan 1m
10. Gogeta 1m
11. Tetra 1m
12. DAS_bro 1m
13. Rave axbow

The losing team will earn 100k each so that makes:

TheHatchetman $100,000
novice $100,000
BluBBen $100,000
Soxjr $100,000
Shade $100,000
Bob Villa $100,000
Totally_Kyle $100,000
urp $100,000
Nemerizt $100,000
DH $100,000
Hakai $100,000
KnightWarrior $100,000
Newlin $100,000

Final Handouts:

1. DoS ToA
2. Ranger 1m
3. SK RoBF
4. Fatality RoE
5. SHD BoTh
6. Rawr 1m
7. DoCandy 1m
8. Tal RoE
9. Titan RoE
10. Gogeta 1m
11. Tetra 1m
12. DAS_bro 1m
13. Rave axbow
i should say the team captain should get like 2m for pulling together such a Blenderific team

lol.

wen do we get our prizes??

Never. It was a trick!! ;p

Your prize was being able to be in the same tourny with Team Awesome!!

Give Slayer some time he's a little under the weather today.
He hasn't been feeling good since Friday.

k.. :)

Enjoy your winnings :)

Gracias,

And thanks for a great tournament.

Perhaps more sports related ones would be great.

Basketball perhaps with 5 person teams?

I've had a couple other sports-related requests, and some other very interesting suggestions, I think next tourney will be another team tourney, then I want to try something a little bit different than usual :)

sweet, I'll try to join

I'm in if your making another tourney it actually made the game fun again.

Most likely I'm also in :)

It was nice change of pace and I would enjoy another one :)

I'm totally up for another contest!!

And thanks again for the prizes!!