Fight feed (in Changelog)


Cube September 12 2009 12:44 PM EDT

Is this new or not? If it's not there refresh CB, I guess and check the sidebar. Cool addition.

Daz September 12 2009 12:45 PM EDT

I really like it.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] September 12 2009 12:45 PM EDT

I believe Jon's working on it right now.

Cube September 12 2009 12:48 PM EDT

It doesn't seem like the Clan version is up and running. Still very nice.

Tal [Chaotic Serenity] September 12 2009 12:53 PM EDT

i like it!! go jon and NS

Zenai September 12 2009 12:53 PM EDT

Yars I like it, though the side Bar should probably scroll now since there is so much on it. Very cool change though I like it.

AdminJonathan September 12 2009 12:55 PM EDT

hmm, still need to get rid of the Feed scrollbar

AdminG Beee September 12 2009 1:03 PM EDT

That is pretty nice. I like it.

Anticipating some questions:

Does it grab much bandwidth? I mean, is it like a constant "page refresh" only, or something more significant? Will it effect my download speed on other apps if I leave the CB page open?

AdminJonathan September 12 2009 1:04 PM EDT

it uses negligible bandwidth.

AdminShade September 12 2009 1:04 PM EDT

I think not, but I'm no expert. I think CB is more fast than ever now though.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] September 12 2009 1:05 PM EDT

im workin from my phone, what is this clan feed?

Lord Bob September 12 2009 1:06 PM EDT

I can't fight at all. Clicking the fight link just gives me "done."

AdminShade September 12 2009 1:07 PM EDT

Refresh your sidebar :)

Nehemiah September 12 2009 1:08 PM EDT

is there a way to turn fight feed off? its lagging my browsing a lot, my machine is 12 years old!!!

God bless you!

Jesus Loves you!

Lord Bob September 12 2009 1:08 PM EDT

Nevermind. it's back on.

Shade, it was NOT a refresh issue.

Lord Bob September 12 2009 1:19 PM EDT

Ok, fighting works, but it's really glitchy. Sometimes it just says "Done" or "Stopped" and loads the fight a few seconds later. Sometimes the fight doesn't go through at all.

Not sure if this is related to the Fight Feed or something else, but I figured I'd report it in case it's needed.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 12 2009 1:23 PM EDT

I get to see who everyone else is fighting?

I suppose it'll be interesting for a little while. But then it's only going to be a farming tool after that.

Does it do anything else?

QBRanger September 12 2009 1:24 PM EDT

Very nice to the eyes.

However, what does it do aside from showing random battles?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 12 2009 1:26 PM EDT

I don't think it's random. I think it shows all fights as thier fought. (or maybe only wins...)

Hens of Daze just killed Hubbell.

QBRanger September 12 2009 1:28 PM EDT

Per Jon in chat,

It picks 1 battles each second randomly to show.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 12 2009 1:31 PM EDT

Ah. Then you can't really use it as a farming tool either.

Is there any way to turn it off?

Lord Bob September 12 2009 1:40 PM EDT

I hope so, because it's interfering with fighting in Firefox.

IE seems to be able to handle it.

kevlar September 12 2009 1:41 PM EDT

Nope IE isn't handling it well. Very very slow switching between screens and fighting

Lord Bob September 12 2009 1:45 PM EDT

Hmm, strange. IE6 is handling it.. adequately enough, over here. Firefox 2 is what's hating this so far.

Not sure if Firefox 3 likes it better, but here in the office we're stuck with IE6 and Firefox 2.

An option to disable this would be great for browsers that can't handle it.

kevlar September 12 2009 1:47 PM EDT

Actually switching between screens for IE (I have 7) is fluid again, but don't have BA to try fighting. I'm sure it will have an option in settings to toggle it on/off.

Windwalker September 12 2009 1:51 PM EDT

Nice addition :) I like it very much.

Demigod September 12 2009 1:53 PM EDT

+1
It does make the game feel like more is happening in the community. I wonder how much it will slow down after wacky time, especially around 4:00AM EST.

ResistanZ September 12 2009 2:19 PM EDT

Anbhas defeated Guernica
Amaterasu. Fire bested stIckSlayer
Failure mauled The Host Of Seraphim
Failure bested Incompetent Duo
Failure slew The Travelling Man
Failure blended Anbhas
Priestess of the Moon blended FUSE
Lafiel trounced Luwalb

Can we also get "pwnt" or "pwned" added into the verbs?

Lord Bob September 12 2009 2:25 PM EDT

Please no.

Real words only.

kevlar September 12 2009 3:07 PM EDT

I think the fight feed should be on the main website home page as well.

Lord Bob September 12 2009 3:08 PM EDT

I think that's an excellent idea!

[The Wretched]Freekie [Lower My Fees] September 12 2009 3:17 PM EDT

So has anyone figured out if this can be turned off... Oddly enough it bothers me... I think its more of i see something going on on the screen and i think something is going on. Might be cool if i still fought.

AdminShade September 12 2009 3:20 PM EDT

As of yet it cannot be turned off. Perhaps Jonathan NightStrike or Verifex can enable this to be switched on and off :)

Burton September 12 2009 3:35 PM EDT

So the Fight Feed does not show every fight?

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] September 12 2009 3:37 PM EDT

Not something forgers really need to see on the sidebar, >.<

AdminJonathan September 12 2009 3:42 PM EDT

> I think the fight feed should be on the main website home page as well.

Me too. Once the bugs are out it will be. :)

Nehemiah September 12 2009 3:42 PM EDT

it was laggy for me when i first got Fight Feed, but a hour later, i closed and restarted my browser, its all better, even with the Fight Feed, so if anyone is having issues with it, try closing and restarting the browser.

God Bless you all!

Jesus Loves you!

QBRanger September 12 2009 3:45 PM EDT

I have noticed a significant decrease in speed when playing on the iPhone with the new fight feed feature.

AdminJonathan September 12 2009 3:47 PM EDT

that should be fixed now too.

QBRanger September 12 2009 3:47 PM EDT

Thanks Jon.

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] September 12 2009 3:57 PM EDT

This looks nice...and...

Something is actually animated on CB! This is like...listening to my first DVD. Like playing SNES for the first time! It's like...installing a 1000$ GPS in my '96 Sentra!

It's amazing is what I'm trying to say.

ResistanZ September 12 2009 3:58 PM EDT

You used to be able to have animated gifs as character images. But something went wrong and now you can't.

Lord Bob September 12 2009 4:12 PM EDT

Seems to be back up and running fine in Firefox 2.

Rawr September 12 2009 4:15 PM EDT

This confuses me -.-;; Whats the "Clan" button mean? And why doesn't it show all the fights? I'm not trying to rush anyone just merely asking for clarification.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- September 12 2009 4:15 PM EDT

Can we get an option to turn this off? I play from 21k dialup and this completely freezes my page up. :S

AdminNightStrike September 12 2009 4:37 PM EDT

Dialup??? Really??

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- September 12 2009 4:41 PM EDT

Yeah, only option available to me at my house. To get satellite out here in the middle of nowhere is like $2,500 installation fee, then like $100 a month, and I just can't justify it :( (We've got 15 acres in the middle of a forest about 30 minutes from civilization :P)

w!ms September 12 2009 4:54 PM EDT

what about when there's a draw

A and B killed each other
A died and so did B

or a stalemate

A's and B's inability to kill one another has resulted in some profound and deep understanding.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 12 2009 5:07 PM EDT

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I don't get it.

lol!

I don't see the attraction to the Fight Feed. :/

{WW]Nayab [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 12 2009 5:25 PM EDT

Awesome improvement :)

IndependenZ September 12 2009 5:39 PM EDT

I like it a lot too. Shows we're out there!

Lord Bob September 12 2009 5:49 PM EDT

Yeah, now that it's working properly, this is pretty cool.

Sickone September 12 2009 5:56 PM EDT

It won't filter "clan only" :|
The button has no effect whatsoever.
IE8 with all the latest patches on XP here.

ResistanZ September 12 2009 6:44 PM EDT

Ersrutor blended a baby
Ares the Great walloped a baby

Baby beaters. :P

j'bob September 12 2009 6:49 PM EDT

more to the point, why is "a baby" attacking random characters?

j'bob September 12 2009 6:50 PM EDT

sorry, when i don't post often I lose my ability to do it so well.

Why is "a baby" attacking characters. Check his fight log. Seems like some of us are getting a kick in the percentage from the baby losing to us.

TheHatchetman September 12 2009 6:51 PM EDT

cuz babies don't have any sense of reasoning or logic... if ya knew the baby, you'd understand ;)

j'bob September 12 2009 6:54 PM EDT

i only just realized "a baby" is not some kind of test character. disregard my post and i'll go back to being quiet.....

HI HATCH!

QBsutekh137 September 12 2009 6:58 PM EDT

I love it.

QBsutekh137 September 12 2009 7:00 PM EDT

Add some fun to it...

Hubbell just answered bot-check correctly: soon
Hubbell just equipped a Morgul Hammer
Hubbell just picked his nose (web-cam enabled)

...

QBsutekh137 September 12 2009 7:02 PM EDT

I love this:

Hubbell walloped Jingleheimer Schmidt
Jingleheimer Schmidt defeated Amoura

This sort of helps people farm others, yeah?

Maybe only show one fight per person per...30 seconds?

Last Gasp September 12 2009 7:07 PM EDT

Yup... love the "Farm" aspect of this.

Sickone September 12 2009 7:43 PM EDT

I would really, really, REALLY love a way to disable it.
It slows down everything for me (not very much, but noticeable enough) and has absolutely nothing I need/want.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 12 2009 7:46 PM EDT

It doesn't help you farm. If it could, I might see why there's the interest in it.

The feed picks a random battle each second.

(Really, I don't want to come across a totally negative here, it's not a bad change or something that I think needs to be done away with - unlike random drops. I'm jubilent that CB is getting changes and improvements. I just personally don't see what this change actually does, or brings to CB. Recent Battles - All tells you the same thing, but in much more detail. It just doesn't constantly refresh.)

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] September 12 2009 8:52 PM EDT

I don't think it's purpose is to be useful. I see it more like a way to give the game a more...Carnage feel. People are dying all around you! Sure, the info might be useless but it gives the game an atmosphere.

three4thsforsaken September 12 2009 8:55 PM EDT

wow, really cool!

kevlar September 12 2009 8:58 PM EDT

GL it gives the game a touch of life... if you have every played a FPS (first person shooter game) every frag (death) it shows who you killed and what weapon you killed that person with. It is indeed a nice touch to the game.

j'bob September 12 2009 8:59 PM EDT

I have decided that is is akin to the blue line feed at the bottom of CNN ...
meaningless to me most of the time, but I just ... can't ... stop... looking.

three4thsforsaken September 12 2009 9:09 PM EDT

this really makes the game feel much more immersive. I have to give you guys a second hand!

Eurynome Bartleby [Bartleby's] September 12 2009 9:11 PM EDT

I don't think there exists a better word to describe killing someone than "blended". Sounds so violent that it's almost poetic.

I love the feed!

Demigod September 12 2009 9:22 PM EDT

Wooh. The feed just told me to stop fighting -- I saw my name appear while I was getting farmed. Thanks, feed!

Mikel September 12 2009 9:26 PM EDT

I think my BA isn't updating now.
I keep showing zero when I attacked it changed to 47.

Does anyone else have this problem?

Demigod September 12 2009 9:27 PM EDT

It was mentioned in another thread. Close out the browser and start fresh.

SuperHD September 12 2009 10:14 PM EDT

Awesome !!!!!!

Almaisky September 12 2009 10:31 PM EDT

Does this also show battles that were lost?

AdminJonathan September 12 2009 10:41 PM EDT

It always shows battles as "winner verb loser" to keep the code simple. So if you attack and lose it will show as "target verb you."

Phrede September 13 2009 1:13 AM EDT

I think it is in bad taste. its just an advert for fighting me :)
Nice enhancement.

Vicious Cat September 13 2009 3:44 AM EDT

It made me get out of my bed and stop playing CB on my phone to come downstairs and see what it was on my lappy.
Now that I did - WOW... That's brilliant :-D

GL - I'm older than you, and I like it ;-P

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 13 2009 5:35 AM EDT

I am AWESOME Jon and NS and Fex are more awesome!

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- September 13 2009 5:36 AM EDT

I want to be AWESOME ... :(

This change is neato though it's boring when you're the ONLY person fighting though. It's pretty cool to see who is fighting though, I agree it adds a level of atmosphere...

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 13 2009 6:31 AM EDT

Can I have the option to disable it? I don't like it.

QBsutekh137 September 13 2009 10:09 AM EDT

GL, even at one battle a second, that s enough to see if a favorite target is online. Before, having chat off made that hard. Now you cannot hide if you are on and fighting unless it is a busy fight time.

QBJohnnywas September 13 2009 10:11 AM EDT

Just go to community to see who's online. That's what I do. The feed is a fun gadget, but it's not really anymore useful for me than chat is....

QBRanger September 13 2009 10:29 AM EDT

Better yet.

Recent Battles ---> All

QBsutekh137 September 13 2009 10:33 AM EDT

Sure, I know that. But being online doesn't indicate fighting, and the fight-feed requires no extra click. You can be in the middle of a normal fight run and then see so-and-so is fighting and concentrate on them.

Sickone September 13 2009 12:06 PM EDT

Well, if at least the "Clan only" option would work... but it doesn't, yet.

QBOddBird September 13 2009 12:07 PM EDT

I just came online and saw this change. Cool, nice addition. :)

Burton September 13 2009 12:59 PM EDT

I'm still confused as to why it shows only a small portion of the total battles going on at that time, can someone explain?

Demigod September 13 2009 2:27 PM EDT

Showing all battles would be a rapid scroll. This way, it's updating at 1 per second, scrolling nicely.

Cube September 13 2009 2:32 PM EDT

Does everyone see the same battles?

BluBBen September 13 2009 3:03 PM EDT

Ulord just made my heart beat faster with this "SNK4R slew Arthas"

To bad SNK wasn't back :'-(

Neo Japan September 13 2009 5:43 PM EDT

this lets you know if you are getting farmed while ur fighting. sweet for me, but bad that I can't farm others like that now =P

QBRanger September 13 2009 5:44 PM EDT

One can easily look at ones score to see if one if being farmed.

Much better than the Fight Feed as it takes random battles each second.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] September 13 2009 5:58 PM EDT


I need to be able to turn this off, thanks.

QBRanger September 13 2009 6:02 PM EDT

I agree with Bast.

This does really effect my iPhone play.

Burton September 13 2009 6:04 PM EDT

I agree, please make an option to turn it off. I do not need this, Recent Battles --> All will suffice by me.
But don't take this as a negative comment, we appreciate it, just some don't need it and some get effected by the lag it creates. :)

AdminG Beee September 13 2009 6:07 PM EDT

Perhaps making the Fight Feed collapsible in the sidebar would be easier than on/off, and have the same effect..?

Flamey September 13 2009 6:09 PM EDT

Justification for it?

[The Wretched]Freekie [Lower My Fees] September 13 2009 6:33 PM EDT

I agree with --- 100%. Its a great change(for the people who use it) but creates wayyyy too much lag. It screws me while im forging which really suprises me. And it seem to be pretty much the same with quite a few people.

Godpanda September 13 2009 7:39 PM EDT

Love the change.

Too much lag.

WAY too much lag.

QBsutekh137 September 13 2009 8:22 PM EDT

I'm seeing lag, too, at 6 megabits per second. Even keystrokes I am typing now lag as the feed feeds.

That's bad. :\

Zenai September 13 2009 8:51 PM EDT

Lag Indeed, I updated to the Latest Java Patch 16 and even though it is much faster I still see a bit if lag at times. Not much mind you but enough to be noticeable.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- September 14 2009 2:42 AM EDT

So am I the only person confused as to why there isn't a way to turn this feature off? This is ruining the game for some of us :(

Zenai September 14 2009 5:56 AM EDT

After further investigation of fighting on my phone this Fight Feed feature ,while cool on the PC, is killing my battery and I have a 5 - 7 second waiting period once I am able to get it to fight at all. Because of the scrolling feature of the Fight Feed my phone is confused as to which button I am trying to push :-/ This will ruin my NCB because I do 80% of my fighting on my phone during breaks throughout the day.

This Feature while totally cool needs an "On/Off" feature super duper pretty please!

Demigod September 14 2009 11:00 AM EDT

I love this feature on my home PC, but it's crippling my crap-tastic work computer (which already lagged CB to begin with). A turn-off button or a click-to-minimize feature will be nice.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] September 14 2009 12:52 PM EDT

This is an interesting change to come back to. I have already found useful when fighting. It does seem to be slowing down CB though as I notice it lags when I am typing now. So there is still probably something buggy with it.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] September 14 2009 12:53 PM EDT

But fighting doesn't seem to be slowed down.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] September 14 2009 12:59 PM EDT

Im typically out and about, so i work from my acer mini. So far nothing is lagging aside from the actual fight button. Sometimes it takes 3-4 clicks before it goes through.

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] September 14 2009 1:06 PM EDT

If you really want to turn it off and on, you can by using these two bookmarklets.

Turn on code:
javascript:(function(){top.sidebar.turnon();}%20)();

Turn off code:
javascript:(function(){top.sidebar.turnoff();}%20)();

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 14 2009 1:12 PM EDT

yup that works fine, thank you verifex

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] September 14 2009 1:15 PM EDT

step by step instructions please.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 14 2009 1:48 PM EDT

In ff, make a new bookmark, give it a name where it says Name:

copy past that line verifex made paste it into location.

Save the bookmark.

While on CB press the bookmark and the fight feed stops refreshing

QBRanger September 14 2009 2:09 PM EDT

Do you have to do this for every computer you play CB on?

Including the iPhone?

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 14 2009 2:13 PM EDT

Yes you need that bookmark on each PC, mobile that you use. And the bookmark stops working as soon as you refresh the page

Sickone September 14 2009 2:19 PM EDT


GOOD :

* see ALL relevant fights in fight feed, not just one per second at (seemingly) random
* ability to turn fight feed on/off with just a click
* ability to have the fight feed ONLY for your clan (including yourself)
* ability to have the fight feed ONLY for yourself (people attacking you)
* ability to have the fight feed ONLY for people in your "Opponents" list


USELESS :

* random fight out of fights in the last second (or last two seconds?)


BAD :

* inability to turn it off altogether
* inability to see all relevant fights not just a random few
* inability to select desired "fight feed" targets

____

So far, we only have "bad" and/or "useless", but none of the "good" features.
I certainly do hope it's a "work in progress" and NOT an "as is, won't improve/change" feature.

QBRanger September 14 2009 2:25 PM EDT

Henk,

We need a hard button to turn this new feature off.

I almost missed a botcheck due to lag on my iPhone.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 14 2009 2:27 PM EDT

Thats for jon or NS to program in the site itself, but until then this gives you the option

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] September 14 2009 2:37 PM EDT

Best ideas for configuring it so far:

- Turn it on and off via a button
- Turn it on and off via settings
- Set refresh interval

Any others?

BTW, the clan/all button should be working as soon as NS/Jon is around.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- September 14 2009 3:00 PM EDT

Thanks fex!

Admiralkiller September 14 2009 3:06 PM EDT

I like it but I also wish I could turn it off/on.

All in all Good job though. :-)

Burton September 14 2009 3:47 PM EDT

This is not solely lagging my CB. It is lagging every single program and browser I have up.
I cannot even play other games with my CB Tab open, I need to close it to play lag free. I was fine with the addition before knowing this, but you cannot possibly keep it for a week and expect no outrages.
It causes much lag, plain and simple, please remove it.

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] September 14 2009 3:53 PM EDT

Burton, right now there is a bug, as mentioned the "buggy extensions" thread, that causes your java to keep resending the information. I don't know if this is something Jon could fix, although it seems like it should be. If I am right, then this is were 99% of the lag is coming from, as users are requesting the server 10 times a second, like Jon said. Hopefully Jon can fix this.

Demigod September 14 2009 4:03 PM EDT

On my insanely crappy work PC, it appears to be time-sensitive. The longer I'm logged in to CB, the worse it gets. Refreshing the browser seems to help for "a while."

AdminShade September 14 2009 4:10 PM EDT

Refreshing your CB window makes the Fight Feed getting a 'cache flush'.

I think the fight feed should not remember more than 10 lines.

Gunny Pew Pew [Red Permanent Assurance] September 15 2009 2:14 AM EDT

Bovine Excrement defeated Slaughterhouse

Wanted to share that with the class. :P

kevlar September 15 2009 2:16 AM EDT

rofl

Lord Bob September 15 2009 2:49 AM EDT

"Bovine Excrement defeated Slaughterhouse"

That is awesome.

Still, since things have been working again in Firefox (since my last post), fighting has been stable, and I actually like the feature.

But fighting has been slow. If we can get things working as quick and good as they were before with the feature, that would be great. If not, well, we know where the problem lies.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] September 15 2009 2:59 AM EDT

Since I updated FF it has been working just as fast as before for me at least.

QBJohnnywas September 15 2009 3:11 AM EDT

My updated FF at home works fine with the feed, whereas before I updated I had lots of lag.

But I tell you what works best: IE6!!!! What do you call that? Backward compatability? Whatever it is, CB has never been as fast at work..... ;)

Zenai September 15 2009 6:16 AM EDT

Ok with a lot of hands on work here with the Samsung Omnia i910 I have great and terrible news.

1. Great News - I have gotten everything to work better with the new Fight Feed, sped up the settings, smoothed out the gameplay, reset and updated the Javascript.

2. Terrible News - Because of the settings being so high and the phone doing so much to keep up a high capacity 10- 12 hour long battery for this phone only lasts roughly 1 - 1 1/2 hours. For the Record I was only running CB on my phone, I turned of my phone features of receiving calls and text messages. :-/

3. I had to charge my phone 3 times yesterday just to get all of my fights in and even then my phone was beeping at me towards the end. I have been playing CB on this phone for my entire NCB, no problems overall except when the server went down. My Battery lasted hours upon hours of being connected to CB without a hitch, I made sure of that by buying a highcapacity battery >:-)

Conclusion Fight Feed + Highend Mobile Phone = Crappy Battery in a few days and bad CB Service overall.

No Offense Fex because to be honest I really like this new feature but it is not a compatible feature with mobile phones on an overall. If my phone is having a problem somthing is wrong it is a very highend phone. On the links (?) you gave Im not even sure they will work on Opera-Mini or Safari :-/

Resolution: For phones an On/Off Switch would be ideal but maybe an option for a strealined link inside CB would be better? just a thought I have no idea how to code and I am unsure as to how long any of this would take.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 15 2009 6:41 AM EDT

if your phone supports javascript, which it must otherwise you can't play CB on it, then those links should work regardless the type of browser you use.

Zenai September 15 2009 6:56 AM EDT

Well I went ahead and tried it, I followed the step by step instructions and it does turn off the fight feed.......and everything else in Opera-Mini :-/ CB Dies afterward. Everything Shows but as soon as you hit a button everything disappears, blank screen city.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 15 2009 7:23 AM EDT

well thats odd.

QBBast [Hidden Agenda] September 15 2009 7:27 AM EDT


Must turn off!

Zenai September 15 2009 12:04 PM EDT

Well not too odd come to find out after calling the manufacturer. They said most phones only have Javascript to make certain sites work. They are very specific about how they work. Their words do not use that link again.....it turns off Javascript your PC has many different avenues your phone does not, just like many others. I asked for an alternate link they said that is not our problem to fix but the sites. So in essence either a link that can work with a phone or a hard button to turn it off or deal with a burned up battery in a short amount of time/ no CB Fix........./me is having withdraws already :,(

QBRanger September 15 2009 1:34 PM EDT

We really need a hard button to turn this off, like now.

BHT September 15 2009 2:38 PM EDT

Why was this change even made, isnt there much more important things to be done?
This seems like a useless cosmetic change that really adds no value to the gameplay.
Also, I agree there NEEDS to be an option to disable it.

Burton September 15 2009 3:13 PM EDT

TURN IT OFF.
Plain and simple, lagging everything I do.

Burton September 15 2009 3:15 PM EDT

Every second this stupid feed loads, it lags my computer.
Now or never, or I guess I won't be coming on CB for awhile until it gets fixed. And at the rate we know problems gets fixed, could be awhile. :/

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] September 15 2009 3:20 PM EDT

I switched to firefox and all my lagging seemed to quit.

Cube September 15 2009 3:30 PM EDT

What were you using before?

Demigod September 15 2009 3:36 PM EDT

I have no problem at all on my home PC. It's just my work computer that lags.

For those of you lagging on computers, have you tried updating Java?

Aera Cura September 15 2009 3:45 PM EDT

Internet explorer.

Aera Cura September 15 2009 3:45 PM EDT

Internet explorer is working for me.

FailBoat[SG] September 15 2009 8:42 PM EDT

Honestly, I'd just like it to go away. Its nice and all but, bothersome if you didn't want it.

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] September 15 2009 8:48 PM EDT

This will be tweaked to make it better.

idiotz September 15 2009 9:50 PM EDT

I'm on dial up and it slows me down tons.

lostling September 15 2009 11:08 PM EDT

A button to shut off will be good... I have to click more then one time on my phone just to fight

Cube September 16 2009 9:45 AM EDT

The clan button is working now. It'd be nice if you could filter only for your own clan as well, and of course as everyone has been saying an optional off button would be great.

QBJohnnywas September 16 2009 10:08 AM EDT

The one problem I have seen relating to the fight feed is this:

When you click 'fight' ordinarily the...focus (is that the right word?) remains on the 'fight' link. But now, when the feed updates, the focus disappears, leading me to have to click twice to fight each time there is an update to feed.

And that's if I'm using the mouse to fight. I used to use the enter button, click once to 'focus' on the fight link and then enter, or c-enter depending on current clan status. But now with that moving 'focus' I can't fight like that. It's mouse all the way.

[The Wretched]Freekie [Lower My Fees] September 17 2009 1:10 PM EDT

Seriously... im getting lag just typing this message... ive been screwed on many forging cycles... please find a way to turn this off... its making me not want to continue playing considering i cant even send a message or post on forums without pauses between writing words.

Cube September 17 2009 1:19 PM EDT

^Verifex posted a temporary fix already. Easiest way to do this is to make a book mark for each of these.

Turn on code:
javascript:(function(){top.sidebar.turnon();}%20)();

Turn off code:
javascript:(function(){top.sidebar.turnoff();}%20)();

Sickone September 17 2009 1:49 PM EDT

"^Verifex posted a temporary fix already."

How about something that doesn't require me to install a third web browser ?
Like, oh, say, an option within the game ?

QBRanger September 17 2009 1:54 PM EDT

And Verifex's temp fix does not work on phones.

Which more and more people in CB are using to play.

Cube September 17 2009 1:58 PM EDT

1. I was trying to help out the poster above me.
2. Notice I said it was a _temporary_ fix.
3. It should work in all browsers (IE, Opera, Firefox). (No idea about phone browsers, but I'll trust you Ranger.)
4. Browsers don't take up much space it's not hard to have 3 on your personal computer. I understand for work computers though.
5. Firefox is the best.

QBRanger September 17 2009 2:22 PM EDT

I, as well as quite a few others, play CB on our phones and/or work computers. As well as those who play on dial-up connections.

While Verifex's temp fix is a nice suggestion, it fails to take care of the underlying problem that I and others find-excessive lag.

I just think people are wanting more of a permanent solution, that is a way to turn the Fight Feed off for good.

QBRanger September 17 2009 2:28 PM EDT

And we all know Veri is working on one and appreciate all the efforts he puts into CB :)

Burton September 17 2009 3:28 PM EDT

*closes CB tab because it causes so much lag it is annoying*
Be back in 6 hours when I decide to open CB again. :/

Demigod September 17 2009 4:02 PM EDT

I don't get why computer users are having huge problems. Verifex's bookmarklet solves the problem quickly, and it should work with all standard browsers. Granted, it's a bandaid fix, but it solves the issue in 20 seconds.

As for you phone users... Jon hasn't logged in since Sept 13th, so best of luck.

Hopefully NS (or another admin) can write a fix in the next few days.

QBRanger September 17 2009 4:10 PM EDT

Demi,

There are a few of us who use our work computers. And not all of them are state-of-the-art. One even uses Win ME.

And we are forbidden to change 1 setting. I am lucky they even let me get onto CB to play.

Demigod September 17 2009 4:16 PM EDT

Ranger,

I'm probably the poster-child for crappy work computers. This beast is kin to a Commodore 64, and our IT has the everything on lock-down. That being said, I've never heard of bookmarks being disabled, and I think anyone with enough freedom to play CB at work should be perfectly fine using Fex's bookmarklet.

Again, not a permanent fix, but it should be fine for Sickone, Burton, and most other PC users.

Brakke Bres [Ow man] September 17 2009 4:26 PM EDT

Win ME? lol

QBRanger September 17 2009 4:28 PM EDT

It's a hospital, and we know how tough times are :)

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] September 17 2009 6:54 PM EDT

it seems to be working much better now for me, anyone else?

Levon [Clocked Out] September 23 2009 7:03 AM EDT

i don't really have time to read each of the messages, but did we get anywhere with being able to disable the fight feed? i think that should be the next priority before fine-tuning it.. the feed is affecting all of my browser windows, and my only solution is to close carnage blender completely

Burton September 23 2009 7:23 AM EDT

Me too Levon, me too. And it's like that for numerous other people too.
I am forced to close my CB tab after I am done spending my BA because of the lag the fight feed creates. :/

QBsutekh137 September 23 2009 9:02 AM EDT

I should do more exhaustive testing, but Firefox on my Mac seems to take more and more memory as time goes on. I closed all tabs except CB, and the Firefox memory usage was at 270 MB. This morning, with no other activity in Firefox in between, the memory usage was 290 MB.

For all I know, Firefox is just that leaky overall. But it does seem that things get laggy/choppy in relation to the fight feed over time. If Firefox has been up three day, I can see keystrokes slow down and pause as the fight feed brings up a new battle.

Are we sure the fight feed isn't simply leaky or buggy still? Can we turn it off until that is determined?

I think today I will try Chrome on my work PC since it puts each tab in a separate process. I'll see if memory usage grows...

Neo Japan September 23 2009 9:57 AM EDT

I have not had a drop of Lag since Fight Feed started. I use IE, because I can. I have never like Firefox and Opera, and u are seeing why. they have always been laggy for me.

QBsutekh137 September 23 2009 1:04 PM EDT

Far from scientific, but I ran through some BA and then left Chrome up, just sitting there (minimized, actually)... memory usage for what is the CB tab process (as far as I can tell) went from around 30 MB to around 50 MB. I burned some more BA< thinking maybe Chrome would clean up some garbage with the interaction, and now memory is around 55 MB.

Have no idea if that is the fight feed or not, though, since I have no way of turning it off to see if memory stays put.

Levon [Clocked Out] September 23 2009 1:18 PM EDT

my only test if the fight feed is the culprit is that this frequent *pausing* only came around when the feed was introduced, and when i close CB the *pausing* disappears.. this solution helps prevent the feed from affecting my other activities, but i'm messing up on forging because my timing and counting get messed up with those *pauses*

also, i used to use IE, but ironically enough i started using firefox since that's what CB recommended! :)

Demigod September 23 2009 1:28 PM EDT

"Have no idea if that is the fight feed or not, though, since I have no way of turning it off to see if memory stays put. "
~Sut

Can't you just use Fex's bookmarklet to turn it off like so many of the rest of us do? I don't use Chrome, but I don't see why that would be different from IE or FireFox.

Demigod September 23 2009 1:39 PM EDT

For any of you who are having problems on computers, here's the code again:

Turn off code:
javascript:(function(){top.sidebar.turnoff();}%20)();

And if anyone is not familiar with what to do, just create any "favorites" bookmark, then change the URL to that code. Click on the bookmark while in CB, and instead of taking you to a new site, it will turn off the feed. It's also not going to change anything permanently. When you close the browser, it's back to normal.

QBRanger September 23 2009 1:57 PM EDT

Or how about we get a hard button to turn it off. Like one should have been made before this Fight Feed as made a permanent addition to CB.

QBsutekh137 September 23 2009 2:42 PM EDT

I'll give it a try, Demigod...

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] September 23 2009 2:55 PM EDT

I am pretty sure one of the big problems with the fight feed right now is that it doesn't erase the battles in the feed as it adds more. So if you leave the browser open it slowly compiles more and more fights in the fight feed. If you have had it up and running for a day then it will have stored up a LOT of fights there and that is the reason the memory just keeps rising as time passes and part of the reason everything starts to lag.

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] September 24 2009 5:38 AM EDT

I've been enlightened. ;)

I didn't 'get' the Fight Feed, but now I do. And I agree 100% with it, what it's for, and the benefits it can, and will bring to CB.

I still want to be able to turn it off though, as it's not for me. ;)

QBsutekh137 September 24 2009 9:29 AM EDT

Not really much else to report from my Chrome tests...

Turning the fight feed off made the Chrome process use virtually no memory, especially when minimized. When I turned it on, the memory went up, but didn't always KEEP going up. I think a lot of things are going on:

-- Memory management is a very interesting thing.
-- Chrome makes it even more interesting with having a main process and then one process per tab.
-- I have no conclusive evidence other than a feeling that the fight feed has leaks (at least on some OSes and browsers) that can lead to lag in certain scenarios.

The Javascript to turn off the feed worked fine, and it works to turn it back on, too (just change the "off" to "on). But as my last point states, there are a lot of OSes and browsers out there, and a lot of them are mobile. If someone has trouble on a mobile platform, they are screwed in a couple ways: they probably can't just switch to a different OS or browser easily, and the JavaScript turn-off might not be something they can implement.

That's all I got.

Guardian September 24 2009 9:56 AM EDT

I like the fight feed. It makes know what strats others use and wich strat win other. Its a cool add to the game.

Burton September 24 2009 4:07 PM EDT

It is cool, I agree with you there. But how it lags my computer up hugely when the tab is open for more then 10 minutes isnt cool at all.
Changes to the game that people whine about and the admins ignore are fine. But when you add a change and it begins to lag many users and has been up and not changed for a week or two and the admins still ignore, kind of disrespectful.
And in before try Vex's bookmark thing, cause I have and it does not work.

AdminQBnovice [Cult of the Valaraukar] September 24 2009 6:46 PM EDT

I'm sure one of us can help you make it work...

browser, the exact text you've got in the bookmark, and what errors if any you're getting when you click on it would be a start.

Cube September 24 2009 6:54 PM EDT

I don't know why it wouldn't work. Browser? Version?

Demigod September 24 2009 8:59 PM EDT

Human error is the likely culprit, since the code should be close to universal. Just make sure you include the semicolon at the end but not the colon at the front when you copy and paste.

Burton September 25 2009 12:31 AM EDT

javascript:(function(){top.sidebar.turnoff();}%20)();
Opera
Newest Version
Getting no errors, it just still lags constantly after 10 mins of the tab opened and the feed stacking up.

FailBoat[SG] September 25 2009 1:52 AM EDT

Much like the Item Lottery, this is another change that I was not happy to have forced on me.

Demigod September 25 2009 10:01 AM EDT

Burton,
Odd... I don't use Opera, so there might be some reason why the code's not compatible.

Regardless, with NS being gone and Jon having not logged in in 12 days, we're certainly not getting an off button for a while...

I also forgot to turn off the feed when I logged in on my work computer. I finished with a client, switched back over to CB, and voila! -- almost-frozen CB.

FailBoat[SG] September 26 2009 10:42 AM EDT

I'm going to keep bumping this every few days until there is a way to turn it off. Yes, I know there is a script I could hit every time but I am not happy with having yet another item forced upon me and letting it chew up memory when I'm not at my computer. So I'd like a legitimate, placed into CB purposefully, way to turn this off.

Cube September 26 2009 10:51 AM EDT

@SG
"Regardless, with NS being gone and Jon having not logged in in 12 days, we're certainly not getting an off button for a while..."

"I'm going to keep bumping this every few days until there is a way to turn it off."

Is your user pic not sarcastic or something?


@Burton
You can't turn off the fight feed, or it's still lagging after you do?

Burton September 26 2009 3:46 PM EDT

I cannot.
I understand Jon and NS are busy, but adding a change to the game that lags numerous people is just not fair. Therefore I will keep bumping this topic aswell.

AdminNightStrike September 26 2009 5:50 PM EDT

I understand that this change makes things harder for some, and that's undesirable. I asked Fex to just move it to a different page until we can sort things out. That should keep everyone happy.

Burton September 26 2009 5:55 PM EDT

Thank you very much NS.

Burton September 28 2009 8:46 PM EDT

2 days later bump

QBRanger September 28 2009 10:18 PM EDT

Has Fexy gotten the message NS?

Burton September 30 2009 2:49 PM EDT

Sigh...Another 2 day bump.

AdminQBVerifex [Serenity In Chaos] September 30 2009 2:52 PM EDT

Please stop bumping this thread, we get the point and have a solution in the pipeline. Just need to wait for Jon or NS to approve it.

QBRanger September 30 2009 3:02 PM EDT

Well Fex,

If we got that message 3 days ago, we would not have been bumping the thread.

The Fight Feed is a nice thing, but it has problems that likely should have been worked out before it was made a permanent addition to CB.

Please do not think that any of us do not respect the time and effort you put into this. Contrary, we do. However, as I stated with the drop system, and contrary to others that disagree, not everything is a home run.

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- September 30 2009 4:23 PM EDT

=) Good to know the solution is in good hands and being worked on.

Zenai September 30 2009 10:08 PM EDT

I agree with Ranger on this one Fex you came up with a Great idea. I am very Glad that you took your own personal time to think it up and write the code for it. The Addition is pretty good in my opinion since it has a very god application. It just needed a tweak to make it run better(especially with phones O.O)

QBRanger October 8 2009 12:26 AM EDT

Can we get this feature turned off till we can get a button to have it on/off as we wish?

Please? Pretty Please?

Or are we at the point where nobody cares anymore?

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] October 8 2009 12:28 AM EDT

http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002svI

relax..

QBRanger October 8 2009 12:33 AM EDT

Yes,

I know.

But this is really painful to continue playing on my phone.

But I am more worried about where things are going when there is a change to CB that really messes up people playing with no solution to the problem for almost a month now.

Imagine new players trying to play on their phone or dial-up. They quickly will turn away.

kevlar October 8 2009 12:34 AM EDT

I absolutely love the fight feed, it gives this game life.

DoS [Demon Forging] October 8 2009 12:36 AM EDT

After having CB open for an hour or two, I do experience lag which is associated with the fight feed :\. So I do use the temporary shutoff and the lag goes away.. So I'm not really sure what my point to this post his, heh...

QBRanger October 8 2009 12:37 AM EDT

I am very glad to read you like it.

But you fail to think of others and their playing experience.

For some of us, it makes playing very difficult. A simple on/off button would do wonders for myself and many others.

But again, I am happy your personal playing experience is enhanced.

[P]Mitt October 8 2009 12:39 AM EDT

Make it a supporter feature!

kevlar October 8 2009 12:40 AM EDT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg1ckCkm8YI

CB > IPhones :/

Sorry.

Kefeck [Demonic Serenity] October 8 2009 12:42 AM EDT

Just be patient guys the button will come.

You guys no how changes in cb come :p..

Demigod October 8 2009 12:56 AM EDT

Jonathan
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NightStrike
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Until NS is back from his needed time away, we can't expect much. Yes, phone users are screwed, but unless another admin can get make a change without one of those two, then you're stuck. And by the way, is Jon okay? This much time is a wee bit long for the creator...

Burton October 11 2009 12:06 AM EDT

Not just phone users Demi, computer users too
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