NW Blacksmith Bug [Fixed] (in Changelog)


{EQ}Viperboy February 16 2010 2:06 AM EST

okay so i found this bug while upgrading my weapons and trying to update the wiki on NW +. Btw for axbow, its entirely wrong.

First off i noted the NW of my weapons with +13 and +15 total NW was 96526 and 136185 for my exbow and axbow, I added the difference to +13 to make it +15 based on what blacksmith told me the upgrade cost was and it said cost 39658 to upgrade it, so +15 would be 136184. So for both weapons at +15 i had a NW anomoly of a difference of 1 136184 vs 136185 for same +15. I disenchanted both weapons to +0 and it displayed NW is 469 for the base weapon, the i looked up the priced from blacksmith to upgrade and wrote them down from +1 to +7 and calculated what should be the expected NW, when i actually upgraded all +7, i looked on my Equip page and the NW displayed was 1 more than what was supposed to be based on the fee in the blacksmith + base NW, so i wanted to see at which + the extra 1 came from.

SO i disenchanted to base again and upgraded one by one and keep checking the NW on my equip page. I was astonished, each time i upgraded the result was an extra NW of 1 than was calculated, so by the time i got to +7, i had a discreptency of 7 instead of the previous 1. cause previously i went from +0 to +7 in one upgrade and difference was only in 1 NW. Now going one at a time from +0 to +7, i had a discreptency of 7. SO people with the same stats on the weapon can now have different NW of the same item. Of course the discreptency is small enough that it doesn't have any impact on money and such in the game or sale of the weapons, but for people like me who like things perfect and update the wiki to be ExACT this is a problem cause now this thing is displaying the wrong NW of the item. Can this be fixed?
btw when i went to +7 individually, i ended up with a NW of 22,521, and when i went from 0 to +7 i ended up with 22515, and when i originally calculated the NW from base based on the upgrade costs its supposed to actually be 22,514

{EQ}Viperboy February 16 2010 2:20 AM EST

so basically if you upgrade individually...you subtract 1 from the + to hit value to find out true NW. Since i was upgrading from base, i subtracted 1 from +!, 2 from +2 NW value of my weapon and posted the corrected fixed values +0 to +13 up on wiki...in theory if you upgraded from +0 to +whatever straight, you would have an extra networth of 1 from the values listed on the table, or if you upgraded twice in between, then a value of 2 is different. the number of times you upgraded = value the nw displayed is inflated by than what it should be based on blacksmith upgrade costs...

{EQ}Viperboy February 16 2010 2:41 AM EST

I found a way to fix a display problem to display proper and actual NW value. Lets say you have a crossbow at +13 displaying the wrong value of 96,536 (if you upgraded each + individually via blacksmith) evne though it should be 96,523, if you go to the blacksmith and go to disenchant and go to +12, it fixes the NW of the value to display the correct value of 79,697 at +12 without any deviation.

Also i do not forge and can't say this bug is repeatable if you are forging an item, I only see it if you are using the blacksmith. I'd appreciate it if this was fixed. Thanks.

Pwned February 16 2010 4:58 AM EST

Wow Viper nice job. :) How would you even know where to look for stuff like this?

AdminQBGentlemanLoser [{END}] February 16 2010 5:02 AM EST

Awesome catch! :D

AdminShade February 16 2010 11:34 AM EST

So people with the same stats on the weapon can now have different NW of the same item.
We already knew this from some items happening, though we never knew why this was happening or where it happened.

but for people like me who like things perfect
I know the feeling, I hope this can and will be fixed even though it's not a major issue.

AdminShade February 16 2010 11:38 AM EST

Added to the known issues wiki page.

{EQ}Viperboy February 16 2010 12:33 PM EST

Thanks.

AdminNightStrike February 18 2010 6:59 AM EST

So what exactly is the problem?

AdminTitan [The Sky Forge] February 18 2010 10:58 AM EST

Weapons with the same x and + have different NW.

AdminShade February 18 2010 2:19 PM EST

The problem is a $1 being added in blacksmith NW calculations every time you upgrade the item.

AdminNightStrike February 20 2010 12:49 AM EST

Ok, so I took my exbow, and I went from x5000 to x5001.

I started with:
nw: 130,374,724
cash: 29,812,026
cost: 9317

I ended with:
nw: 130,384,041
cash: 29,802,709

That's a difference in nw of 9317 and cash of 9317.

What's the issue?

QBRanger February 20 2010 12:51 AM EST

It perhaps reads to me that this issue is with upgrading only the + on the item, not the x.

AdminNightStrike February 20 2010 12:57 AM EST

Nah, I see it... this issue actually has some nasty ramifications in terms of NW on items where people didn't go 1 by 1.

AdminNightStrike February 20 2010 1:16 AM EST

So basically, if two people start with teh same base item, and one person upgrades 1x at a time while the other does it all in one shot.... the latter will pay more and have a larger NW item than the former, but the x on the two items will be the same.

This is going to be REALLY annoying to correct once I actually find the mistake.

AdminNightStrike February 20 2010 1:48 AM EST

Well, I found the mistake.. Will be a bit before the fix is in.

Soxjr February 20 2010 3:38 AM EST

awesome work everyone. Way to find a problem and then great work NS at looking into it .. :) good work all around.

AdminNightStrike February 20 2010 10:06 AM EST

Fixed. Every weapon has been recalculated, and the cash difference sent to you. System-handled rentals sent the money to the right owner. If you're holding a weapon for someone, though, you should be a nice person and send the actual owner the cash.

Zenai February 20 2010 10:10 AM EST

Nice!

QBRanger February 20 2010 10:14 AM EST

Thanks.

Unappreciated Misnomer February 20 2010 10:46 AM EST

oh no my dagger went from x2k to x1k

yesss! ;D

{Wookie}-Jir.Vr- February 20 2010 3:57 PM EST


From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$17 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Main Gauche. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$33 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Tulwar. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$12 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Sabre. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$15 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Rapier. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$9 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Cutlass. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$18 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Mace. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$49 sent to {Zombie}OMGIMAZOMB after adjusting value of your Morning Star. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$44 sent to {spank}Jiraiya after adjusting value of your Compound Bow. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$5,523 sent to Blightning after adjusting value of your Enforcer's Crossbow. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:15 AM EST)
$178 sent to Blightning after adjusting value of your Mace of Disruption. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$23,346 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Tulwar. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$12,800 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Rapier. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$12,401 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Sabre. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$12,566 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Main Gauche. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$126,863 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Mace. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$19,367 sent to Rental Company PWN II after adjusting value of your Cutlass. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$66,589 sent to {Zombie}OMGIMAZOMB after adjusting value of your Morning Star. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:05 AM EST)
$88,508 sent to {spank}Jiraiya after adjusting value of your Compound Bow. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:04 AM EST)
$3,076,877 sent to Blightning after adjusting value of your Enforcer's Crossbow. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system (10:03 AM EST)
$50,751 sent to Blightning after adjusting value of your Mace of Disruption. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.


:P

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] February 20 2010 3:59 PM EST

Mine was a lot longer than that. ; )

Zenai February 20 2010 4:03 PM EST

hahaha I bet Tal's was pretty long too since he's holding all of NS' Stuff for Rentals......lol

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] February 20 2010 8:14 PM EST

From: system Sent: 10:04 AM EST Delivered: 12:56 PM EST
$467,685 sent to Team Rocket after adjusting value of your Whip. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.

Makes me glad I decided to keep that old whip. That was a quarter of what I could sell it to the store for.

AdminNightStrike February 20 2010 8:30 PM EST

Orange whip? Orange whip? Orange whip? Four orange whips!

{EQ}Viperboy February 21 2010 1:54 AM EST

Its NOT FIXED

I disenchanted my crossbow to base so its NW is 469, i went to +1 which costs 358, my NW became not 827 as it should but to 828. I went now to +2 which costs $1017, my NW is now at $1,844 instead of $1,842. So there is now a +2 deviation.

So the bug is NOT FIXED. Each upgrade at blacksmith creates a deviation of 1 in NW from what it should be. The error is in the code of how NW is calculated after being upgraded at the blacksmith.

AdminNightStrike February 21 2010 7:52 AM EST

I fixed it for x, not for +.

The error is in the code of how NW is calculated after being upgraded at the blacksmith.


...Glad to see that you know the code better than me...

AdminNightStrike February 21 2010 8:27 AM EST

Fix it for + now

Zenai February 21 2010 9:17 AM EST

Thanks NS!

{EQ}Viperboy February 21 2010 1:11 PM EST

lol ok thanks again.

btw how do you guys quote other people?

QBRanger February 21 2010 1:14 PM EST

btw how do you guys quote other people?


http://www.carnageblender.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=002wgy

{EQ}Viperboy February 21 2010 1:20 PM EST

thanks ranger.

I was doing tests, confirming that X NW is FIXED although i never actually checked if it was bugged, probably was...
Checked + NW at it still is buggy so NOT FIXED, I'm not sure if we need to wait for a cache flush for that to be working/displaying correctly?

Miandrital February 21 2010 6:02 PM EST

This bug is really gonna screw up the wiki nw value's

We need to start a push to get all the pages updated again

Admindudemus [jabberwocky] March 7 2010 10:48 AM EST

can i remove this from the known issues page now? is it a verified fix, in other words? thanks!

AdminNightStrike March 7 2010 11:35 AM EST

Not yet

Unappreciated Misnomer March 10 2010 11:09 AM EST

so what changed last night, i got some adjustments on some items?



rom: system Sent: 8:41 AM EST Delivered: 8:44 AM EST
$1 sent to The Nameless One... after adjusting value of your Elven Long Bow. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system Sent: 8:41 AM EST Delivered: 8:44 AM EST
$5,390 sent to The Nameless One... after adjusting value of your Mace of Disruption. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system Sent: 8:40 AM EST Delivered: 8:44 AM EST
$4,525 sent to The Nameless One... after adjusting value of your Halberd. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system Sent: 8:40 AM EST Delivered: 8:44 AM EST
$5,999 sent to The Nameless One... after adjusting value of your Battle Axe. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.
From: system Sent: 8:40 AM EST Delivered: 8:44 AM EST
$3,251 sent to The Nameless One... after adjusting value of your Dagger. Hit Update Stats on yourself if you don't see the money yet. Really, it's there.


And! when is the Update Stats button get removed anyways?

Wasp [Demon Forging] March 10 2010 1:09 PM EST

Why is it my bone lost like 500k nw but I got peanuts for it in return?

Unappreciated Misnomer March 10 2010 1:35 PM EST

Well in my case my items didnt loose any NW or X,+'s and now that im awake and have a coffee into me, i wish we could edit our posts, gawd i cant write in the morning.

AdminShade March 10 2010 1:41 PM EST

And! when is the Update Stats button get removed anyways?

It is removed when you have trained or pressed it already very recently. (and keeps being gone for 5 minutes)

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 10 2010 2:26 PM EST

What I want to know is, I had two exbows at +100, now one is at +99, and the other is at +98. Why are they not the same?

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] March 10 2010 2:27 PM EST

They were upgraded in different ways.

smallpau1 - Go Blues [Lower My Fees] March 10 2010 4:53 PM EST

AFAIK, I'm pretty sure I forged both of them to +100 from base.

AdminNemesia [Demonic Serenity] March 10 2010 4:59 PM EST

did you get them both straight from the auctioneer or in drops?

AdminNightStrike April 19 2010 11:48 PM EDT

This issue is fixed.
This thread is closed to new posts. However, you are welcome to reference it from a new thread; link this with the html <a href="/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=00301m">NW Blacksmith Bug [Fixed]</a>