s&f continued (in Off-topic)
once again we closed out a thread so here is a new one! ; )
September 18 2010 9:06 AM EDT
I'm going to be really afk in S&F while i'm on vacation.
BTW I'm on vacation.
be safe, have fun & return rested!
September 18 2010 9:16 AM EDT
Have fun Wraithlin!
September 18 2010 10:57 AM EDT
S&F (302 replies)
S of S&F (461 replies)
I wonder just how many this one will get!
I'm actually Tempted to see just what this game is all about......lol
i think we have only had one quit playing entirely so far out of about fifty trying it.
we are at war! please prep as soon as possible. ; 0
Okay just joined. Name is Wasp. Any help is appreciated :)
verify your email and spend those first shrooms on the best mount, it will take all of them. then save all shrooms for that mount.
September 18 2010 11:53 AM EDT
Wasp, whatever you do, don't hit the "skip" buttons that use shrooms. A few of us made that mistake when starting...
September 18 2010 11:54 AM EDT
I've prepped for war and drank some potions as well :)
ooh, thanks shade, need to check those myself!
Yeah I was clicking that button earlier and I think I lost all my shrooms :(. I went to work for 90 silver pieces so can't do much atm
September 18 2010 7:20 PM EDT
Having created the account so recently, I'd honestly advise just deleting/remaking it. You can delete the account from the Options screen.
If you recreate it, you will get your 15 starting shrooms again, and 10 for confirmation, just as if you were a brand new player. It would be well worth the lost day of progress to get back those 25 shrooms.
September 19 2010 9:20 AM EDT
if anyone here wants to do smaller donations for shrooms ill take em on my bank char Coraths bank/storage and ill sell and buy shrooms for the guild.. on top of doing the work ill double the donations before i sell the cbd (if i got enough cash.. got 5.4 mil atm)
September 19 2010 9:31 AM EDT
If you're interested in donating towards a mass purchase of shrooms for the guild - as you're right, our last purchase is going to run out before we're 50 fortress and 100% everything - then please feel free to donate to Shroom Drive
I ask that we use this one because there are still a lot of items left on it from the last short fundraising run.
September 19 2010 10:41 AM EDT
oh, didnt know that you had done that before =)
I just bought a load of mushrooms. Simples.
your invite should be waiting on ya when you log into s&f waspy! ; )
September 19 2010 4:08 PM EDT
Am I right with the following calculations?
100 minutes * 14 days = 1400
25 mushrooms * 20 minutes = 500
Total: 1900 minutes
(100 / 0.7 minutes) * 14 days = 2000
24 mushrooms * 20 minutes = 480
Total: 2480 minutes
(100 / 0.5 minutes) * 14 days = 2800
0 mushrooms * 20 minutes = 0
Total: 2800 minutes + that x gold environmental reward, whatever it is...
September 19 2010 4:09 PM EDT
Above mentioned calculations are based on not buying mushrooms and spending 25 mushrooms per 2 weeks, merely a hypothesis because I'm not able to spend 25 each 2 weeks but still =)
September 19 2010 4:59 PM EDT
I got a mage level 24 named Messbu, if you ever have to boot someone out , I would be glad to join the guild.
September 19 2010 5:13 PM EDT
(100 / 0.7 minutes) * 14 days = 2000
(24 mushrooms * 20 minutes)/0.7 = 686
Total: 2686 minutes
September 19 2010 5:14 PM EDT
*Because beer gives you 20 minutes of raw time, which is then boosted by your mount.
September 19 2010 5:17 PM EDT
Thehatchetman doesn't play anymore and Night strike might have quit.
they are both still playing and wanting to stay in the guild. we do have some more room for fortress upgrades. ; )
we will upgrade asap mess and get you an invite when we can.
September 19 2010 5:54 PM EDT
We're under attaaaaaack! Man the walls, prepare the defenses!
Finally started a S&F. Character's a level 4 scout named Justaburd, if anyone wants to send an invite. :)
September 19 2010 8:03 PM EDT
It'll take us a bit to afford another slot. Just keep beefing up the guy until we can pull you in.
messbu has an invite waiting, now working on meteor's slot! ; )
September 19 2010 11:20 PM EDT
Excellent, thanks for the invite, I just donate 45 shrooms, Ill donate some gold as soon I get some ;)
September 19 2010 11:37 PM EDT
I found this on my surfing adventures for S&F and thought I would share it. Now I dunno if it actually works but hey its worth a try I guess.
There is a way to get extra mushrooms:
1) First type http://s1.sfgame.co.uk/index.php?rec=8128
and go create a new account. It works only for new chars.
2) Then go validate-verify your e-mail to get the extra mushrooms (as a new user).
3) In the next step, go to Hall Of Fame and type there this: /extramushrooms # (in # type the number of mushrooms).
4) Then go to your old account, in Hall of Fame and in the search bar type: /transfer_mushrooms;from_Ajax;to_Bob (e.x. Ajax is the new account u made and Bob the old one). Like this, all the mushrooms are transfered to the old account :)
September 19 2010 11:52 PM EDT
That's a referral code in the URL. My guess is that it's just a scam to get more referral bonuses.
September 20 2010 6:31 AM EDT
its as simple as this... if you dont buy mushrooms
do i have 25 mushrooms? if yes spend it on a 50% mount
if i dont spend 1 mushroom on the 30% mount and save the rest until i have enough for the 50% mount
if you buy mushrooms... obviously just get the 50% mount and spend whatever the rest you want on 20 thirst each
September 20 2010 9:39 AM EDT
sent assorted gear and 1 mill to shroom drive
September 20 2010 5:39 PM EDT
sent 4 Million and some items to shroom drive, the armor storing capacity on that character is full as of now by the way.
September 20 2010 10:24 PM EDT
Reminder: Tomorrow's EXP time, so we'll have a guild war starting then. Log in to prep at that time.
September 21 2010 3:22 AM EDT
Just under 3 hours to go for prepping for the war I will be starting at 11.00 AM GMT that 6 EST (or 3AM if you are a west coast hippy with flowers in your hair - ah those were the days, Free Love, Free Milk at school, Free Nelson Mandela, ...)
September 21 2010 8:21 AM EDT
September 21 2010 8:27 AM EDT
I'll take it OB!
September 21 2010 7:49 PM EDT
Google Chrome, I thought you were my solution
September 21 2010 8:52 PM EDT
It seems that we're out of shrooms!
I think we should add another guild battle day on thursday, since we should have extra gold floating around. The battles are really something to look forward to over the daily grind of clicking tavern quests.
It can be a nonmandatory battle starting at 11:00 EST. Most players generally log in at least twice a day, so I don't see participation as a problem.
September 21 2010 8:56 PM EDT
So since we're out of shrooms, here's the question:
Do we auction what's on shroom drive, sell the CBD, and buy what we can right now and use those up
Or do we auction what's on shroom drive to make space for more donations, keep the CBD, and save until we can get the $100 shroom package (which would all but eliminate our guild shroom needs)?
Either way, I'm about to get to work on an auctions thread to sell off those items.
sorry about chrome!
i say save it for the 100, but we can re-evaluate after we see how much we get in this push?
as for another guild battle day, i am all for it! ; )
the guild raids will also help break up the questing. weren't they supposed to be in by the end of the month?
September 21 2010 11:36 PM EDT
Supposedly. That means 9 more days before they have broken their word! :o
September 21 2010 11:37 PM EDT
Oh! New update:
Here is an update: One of our lead programers has been ill for some time and has to stay in bed. Therefore, a release date of the guild dungeons in September cannot be guaranteed and a release date in October is more likely.
September 21 2010 11:53 PM EDT
Since our intended target for today wasn't available, I don't see any problem in running another battle on Thursday.
Also, congrats to Freekie for landing the killing blow today.
September 22 2010 12:52 AM EDT
Any idea on when they will run another sale on the shrooms? It would be best to buy our guild shrooms on sale.
September 22 2010 1:00 AM EDT
Arf mentioned German holidays, but I don't think the last couple happened on holidays -- they seemed pretty random.
September 22 2010 7:07 AM EDT
Oktoberfest might generate a sale. It seems like we need about 2790 mushrooms to fully upgrade all bonuses (Including the shrooms we currently have.
So our options are:
1. Wait for a sale, and buy the $100 package that gives 3000 shrooms.
2. Buy the $100 and the $25 dollar package.
3. Buy the $100 and have the rest come from the members of our guild.
I'd suggest 1 or 2, because guild dungeons might require mushrooms for extra features.
ob has put up the items for auction here!
please remember that further item or cbd donations can be sent to his character "shroom drive."
September 23 2010 7:59 PM EDT
Congrats to Volave this time around.
September 23 2010 8:00 PM EDT
That's BMWheatley for everyone else...
September 24 2010 10:04 AM EDT
I will be in Atlanta this weekend, so I won't be around to start a battle tomorrow. Will one of the officer please select a target and initiate the attack at EXP time?
I should be able to log in enough to burn thirst and prep.
we always do it anyway! ; )
September 24 2010 10:25 AM EDT
mmmm I has Started S & F. Will build character till available slot, or will just work solo if no spots open :)
September 24 2010 12:04 PM EDT
I think you and Zenai are the only ones still waiting.
The slots cost shrooms, which we won't have until after OddBird finishes the shroom sales. Just keep beefing up those characters and remind us when the sale ends.
fyi, we have 2 waiting to become members and are currently at 47 members. those two will take us to 49 and the max guild size is set at 50. this means we really only have 1 slot left if someone is playing at wants to get on the list, barring attrition of course!
we do still have a person in the second guild that could likely log on and give leadership to a more active player if we need to start looking into that.
September 24 2010 2:33 PM EDT
So do we want to buy shrooms as soon as possible to have enough to cover 50 Fortress, and then save to cover the other bonuses over time?
Or do we want to save and get enough shrooms to cover it all at once?
gonna pm zen, not sure if he's even playing and if we only have one wanting in that might change my answer!
September 24 2010 2:55 PM EDT
The problem is that there's no guarantee when the next sale will occur (we just had one). We can't wait a month for a sale, so if we have two people in limbo, we'll just have to proceed with buying something.
September 24 2010 2:59 PM EDT
That is true, but I was basing the question more around the fact that we need a ton of shrooms to fill everything out, Demi.
If we buy the $100 package, it saves us a lot of money, and thus fundraising.
But if we buy a smaller package first, we can fill out Fortress and just take our time making the extra $$$ to afford the rest.
September 24 2010 3:14 PM EDT
Ah, I was only focusing on enough to get the fortress slots filled. I agree with the sentiment.
September 25 2010 5:05 AM EDT
I will start a war at XP time later - dont know who with yet - depends who is available at the time.
shroom sale going on over there!
September 25 2010 9:10 AM EDT
Doesn't look like, at the going rate of 2USD/mil, we're even going to make $20.
Packages during the sale:
$5 = 54 shrooms
$10 = 120 shrooms
$25 = 480 shrooms
$50 = 1200 shrooms
$100 = 3000 shrooms
I think we're far better off waiting for the next time around. We just don't have enough yet.
i bid 2.5 per million, if no one outbids me we could get 480 and have enough to max out fortress. then we would be done with that upgrade and have some growing room.
we could then take it more easy on the other bonuses and keep donating items and cb.
waiting is good as well, we are fairly close to getting the one slot open that we need for now.
i am cool with whatever is decided though.
September 25 2010 9:47 AM EDT
Even if we made $25, we would still lack over 2,000 mushrooms. This means we'd have to make another $100 purchase.
I'd rather hold off and make a single large purchase than donate 125% of what is necessary.
Shroom Drive will continue to take item and CBD donations! I, for one, am sending it all of my 'god drops.'
We got two tribes
We got the bomb
We got the bomb-yeah
Sock it to me biscuits-now
Are we living in a land
Where sex and horror are the new Gods?
When two tribes go to war
A point is all you can score
we are at war people, let's prep! ; )
September 25 2010 12:09 PM EDT
shroom drive full - if any equipment thats sent to you wont make more than 50K just sell it to cb
September 25 2010 4:49 PM EDT
It is no longer full. I have 6 weapons unequipped and no armor unequipped, so those slots are open.
If I get more cheaper items that I likely won't get much from in an auction, I may simply sell them to the store as suggested.
September 25 2010 5:30 PM EDT
Here's a little tool that I started to make that tells you what to upgrade next.
Inputs are necessary in the blue boxes. (Except the ones under item analysis, unless you'd like to compare the effectiveness of two items).
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September 25 2010 5:33 PM EDT
I forgot: To use it, duplicate the master sheet by clicking the tab at the bottom.
iamsmarterist, i sent you a cm asking for your character name for the invite. please respond so we can get you in!
September 26 2010 6:38 PM EDT
BTW, Arfbargle mentioned having some shrooms left over for the new Guild Dungeons. Does anyone know if they confirmed yet whether or not these would be a mushroom-costing feature?
we now have fortress level 49 and all invites sent for people that i know wanted them. this also means that we only have one more slot available for another player.
we do still have the second guild, snicker snack and if we need to we can get that one going again.
basically though, if you want in jabberwocky, speak now! ; )
September 26 2010 8:22 PM EDT
Sorry. Been out of town for a couple days and haven't gotten on to S&F, but should be back to normal starting today.
September 27 2010 6:54 AM EDT
Amberknights looks like a fun next target.
September 27 2010 7:30 AM EDT
That's a really close target. If every one of them prepped, we'd lose. However, we haven't seen many fights where they all prep...
It's also not going to be the cheapest target, but it's not like we're going to find any Fortress 10 guys to attack at our size. So, very well, we'll give them a whirl during tomorrow's EXP time.
September 27 2010 8:35 AM EDT
Last night I had 19 mushrooms, clicked the Guard and went to bed
Wake up with 17 mushrooms, click the Guard and collect my gold, and it looks like it completed a dungeon while I was asleep
This is proof to me that it wasn't a hacking, it's S&F being glitchy, as if a person had gotten in then they would've had to collect from Town Guard before they could do anything else, right?
FFFFF I want my 2 mushrooms back dammit, every time I get close to getting 50% mount I lose shrooms again
from what i read in the link i posted in the previous s&f thread, your computer is sending multiple commands for each click. so when you fight a dungeon mob, later it sends the command again, if it hasn't been an hour then it blows a shroom. the same things happens with quests & arena. this is also why multiple chat entries show up.
i do not see how this could be on their side, it would have to be client side from what i have seen.
zev has it bad too, some of his chat was dupicating from friday on sunday.
i think that is why they assume the router is the culprit.
September 27 2010 5:40 PM EDT
We're about to get attacked by a single HUGE guy. Prep for the beating.
September 27 2010 6:15 PM EDT
But how can it even send that command?? I was on Guard duty! >(
normally you cannot go into the dungeon screen while on guard duty but perhaps if you could it would allow you to press that button initiating that command. so the way they keep you from doing that is to just not show the button. in effect, whatever causes your issues allows you to press that button that you normally wouldn't even be able to see.
September 28 2010 7:36 AM EDT
Starting war against Arf's target.
September 28 2010 7:44 AM EDT
It starts in just under 10 hours so please prep - its a tough target if they all turn up - but will be fun I think.
September 28 2010 7:54 AM EDT
we failed =x
September 28 2010 8:27 AM EDT
we got slaughtered
September 28 2010 9:12 AM EDT
on defense* but what can we expect against an opponent with 1.2M HP? xD
I'm not gonna be here till Saturday so will be unable to help till then : (
September 28 2010 5:47 PM EDT
Offensive victory! Congrats team!
September 28 2010 6:47 PM EDT
Areva & Freed (Arf & Friid) can share the glory for this fight.
how can we review the past clan fights?
Alright, won't be away... so can help. Wooo lvl 35 :D
September 29 2010 7:29 AM EDT
There's no way to review old fights that I know of.
September 29 2010 9:02 AM EDT
You can't. A lot of players have requested the ability to view past clan fights in their suggestions forum, and from what I've seen the response is that they don't want to store the fights on their server because it would take up too much room.
it will store it if you are logged out and play when you log in. if you just leave it open though it plays it live.
September 30 2010 9:05 AM EDT
So I have been busy with work (RL) recently and have found that I have not had enough time to spend all of my tavern time. I have been working in game nonstop so at least I am not idle.
My question is to see if anyone is dedicated to this game enough that they would spend my Tavern time for me and share the account. Until a later day once work slows down (RL) I could be able to manage it on my own again.
I would be willing to donate 1/2 my earnings to the clan.
i started a war, go preppeth fools! ; )
September 30 2010 10:12 AM EDT
I bought pot and prepped for warrrrr
September 30 2010 11:57 AM EDT
Sorry, dudemus, but that prep time doesn't work for me. I'll be in the office all day (S&F doesn't come through). Hopefully it's an easy target.
you won't be home by seven?
September 30 2010 12:55 PM EDT
Nope, I work late on Thursdays so I can leave the office by noon on Fridays. :) I'll see my last client at 6:00, so I'll probably get home around 7:30.
sorry, we should be fine though. all but 14 of our have prepped already and none of theirs have. the guild is "cuddle bunnies", we fought them last week but no one entered the results. i do remember that it was close though!
Where are the results posted?
if you log out before the fight, when you log back & click on the guild tab it will show the fight and then the end screen with the results, how much xp and honor we gained. if you are logged in then the fight will play itself and when you return all you will see is the end screen when you go into guild.
if you are logged in, there does seem to be some instances where you won't see anything so i have found it is best to log out before the fight starts and log back in when i have time to watch it!
September 30 2010 3:53 PM EDT
Kudos on the raid participation guys. My last guild was lucky to have over a 50% participation rate.
September 30 2010 4:03 PM EDT
Am I right in seeing only 2 of their members as prepped to defend?
we have only nine not prepped as of now, i think three are a def not prepping as working, without internet or travelling. so yes, that is awesome participation!
only two opponents have prepped so far, this may be the guild though that all seemed to have prepped at once last week.
September 30 2010 4:54 PM EDT
btw, are we still having our EXP time war tomorrow, or is this in place of the regular war?
this was just extra and we will still have the exp time war saturday morning as usual. unless you are oddbird who is going to start partying tonight and skip friday altogether! ; )
September 30 2010 5:06 PM EDT
oh right, tomorrow is friday, isnt it
October 1 2010 1:20 AM EDT
no, today is Friday :p
October 1 2010 6:16 AM EDT
any suggestions for an opponent for tomorrow ? - I will start the battle at EXP time. Well me or someone else :)
Gratz on our glorious victory - we even killed their relatives, friends and pets.
October 1 2010 7:28 AM EDT
A guild that's been on the "can't beat them yet" list that we can now destroy is 420guild.
October 1 2010 7:34 AM EDT
One of the reasons I like choosing them is because we can win even without me prepping. I'll be caving/spelunking on Saturday, so unless I can get back to a computer in time to prep (possibly but not likely), I won't be available.
October 2 2010 3:14 AM EDT
420guild it is then
October 2 2010 5:58 AM EDT
420 guild has been declared on - prep up guys :)
the only thing more deadly than a lone assassin is a lone assassin with friends watching his back!
waaaggghhhh! ; )
October 2 2010 9:11 AM EDT
My pet griffin jumps on dudemus' back and plunges two claws into his throat!
October 2 2010 9:11 AM EDT
you don't have to put on the red light!
October 2 2010 9:12 AM EDT
It's always best to have three layers of protection. ;)
October 2 2010 11:39 AM EDT
lets get those last 10 or 15 people prepped now - get over there and prep up and if you can pot up.
October 2 2010 10:13 PM EDT
an easy win, I like it! :D
October 2 2010 10:34 PM EDT
As an aside, I think I've decided that I'm going to stop using the Epic mount and go 30% mount + beers from now on. I realize this is less efficient for normal players, but might be more efficient for me given that I am constantly losing shrooms - it causes me to be stuck with the 30% mount for a week or two between 50% mounts, as my progress in saving up to 25 keeps taking 2 steps forward and 1 step back.
Anyone else think this is a good idea? It seems like it to me, as this way I could spend the shrooms as soon as I get them and reduce my chances of losing any.
October 3 2010 3:13 AM EDT
for you yes i think this is a better idea as apposed to losing shrooms randomly go for it
October 3 2010 7:01 AM EDT
How do you lose shrooms ?
If you have problems with your Flash installation you might lose shrooms when buttons are pushed 'all by themself'.
And it seems that you can 'push buttons' while working, as they do not check it correctly but simply 'hide' the button from the user.
October 3 2010 9:36 AM EDT
Aye, what sebidach said, though nobody seems to know the actual cause behind it. I don't have Flash issues with anything but S&F, and when I ask about it on their forums the suggestions range from advising that I get a new router to "you've definitely been hacked!"
can you send stuff from 1 player to the other in the game?
October 3 2010 12:00 PM EDT
Nope, no trading.
Imagine have overpowered it would be if a level 175 sent a helmet selling for 100,000 gold to a level 1 player. 8D
I seem to be having difficulties getting shrooms.....Could it be my elite dragon?
October 4 2010 7:38 AM EDT
Tomorrow will make TWO weeks that I haven't received one single shroom drop.
October 4 2010 10:56 AM EDT
I get 5 or 6 a day - but I always donate them
October 4 2010 10:59 AM EDT
actually thats rubbish - sorry its normally about 2 a day - 100 fights a day its a bit mean imho
October 4 2010 11:01 AM EDT
This might be purely coincidental, but it seems that once i got the dragon mount my mushroom income dropped pretty drastically; i can't actually remember getting one since i got the new mount, and i used to get them all the time when i had the raptor. anyone else experience anything similar?
October 4 2010 11:12 AM EDT
I experienced that feeling, which is why I mentioned a reduced chance of drops way up in this thread. But that theory was shot down by others. I just have a hard time thinking I can go this long without a drop just by chance.
October 4 2010 2:26 PM EDT
I seem to get 1-2 per day on the dragon mount.
Good luck pulling through the dry spell, Demi. :T
October 4 2010 3:02 PM EDT
Worth noting: the two-week stretch without a single drop was the same two-week stretch after buying a griffin. I bought another one this morning, so we'll see if I start getting lucky again.
October 4 2010 4:15 PM EDT
I bought a griffin yesterday and have gotten 2 mushrooms since then...
October 4 2010 5:59 PM EDT
Oh, that was my third griffin. I had plenty of drops with the other two. It's just insanely beyond the odds to go that long without a drop.
October 4 2010 6:25 PM EDT
We are being attacked please prep for defence
October 4 2010 8:12 PM EDT
semi-difficult decision ahead...
I'm currently using the DX bow and just picked up the CON bow. I don't want to lose that much of my primary stat, but sheesh...I get a wider damage range, but the average damage increases by about ~200 with the CON bow. I'd also gain 30,000 HP - 30% more HP - but I'll be weaker against other Scouts!
Should I stick with the new bow?
October 4 2010 9:11 PM EDT
22% average base damage increase... I'd take it, but I'd hold onto the old one until you can pick up a DEX item for another slot. Guess where all of your next stat upgrades are going?
October 5 2010 5:59 AM EDT
We have declared war on Headhunters - please prep up in readiness for the war.
i have added inquisition to our list to fight once we get a bit bigger..freed almost had that last guy! ; )
October 5 2010 9:21 AM EDT
October 5 2010 9:21 AM EDT
October 5 2010 9:36 AM EDT
I don't know if I should feel lucky or not, but I have another tough decision!
The aforementioned CON bow, or a new DX bow, with stats of:
The CON bow has more base damage and more total stat gain, but DX! And I'm sure this new bow would easily outdamage the CON bow...but is it worth the 30,000 HP loss...( I have 140k HP )
October 5 2010 10:40 AM EDT
Hmmm. That's a good one. I'd be tempted to sacrifice HP and a bit of base damage for Dex. Damage increases as the fight goes on, so you're really just talking about one hit, maybe two.
I'd still say the con bow only because it's only about a 700 damage increase.
October 5 2010 10:55 AM EDT
October 5 2010 10:58 AM EDT
personally i just think of weapons purely for damage and the rest of my equipments for stats... so i will use whichever weapon that gives me more to my lower damage bracket
October 5 2010 11:15 AM EDT
I'd still say the con bow only because it's only about a 700 damage increase.
Turns out to be about a 1.1k avg damage increase.
Tough decision is tough T_T
October 5 2010 4:08 PM EDT
14 teammates failed to prep. Remember that we do guild fights during XP time. If you have the ability, log in and prepare for the battles. Not only does it make you cool, but the ladies also like it.
And you get experience :D
October 5 2010 10:24 PM EDT
Yeah, the XP aspect of guild wars is really really worthwhile...I'd fight one every day! >O
October 6 2010 6:09 AM EDT
I didnt realise you get experience
For higher levels the EXP gain isn't that much. I got ~15k for the last one. I wonder how this is calculated.
October 6 2010 8:15 AM EDT
It's something like
Honor Gained/100 * (Maximum possible EXP of the second shortest quest)
October 6 2010 8:18 AM EDT
I got 7.5k for the last one. I think it is scaled according to level.
October 6 2010 10:35 AM EDT
we have started another war :)
well dudemus did it by mistake - prep up maties
sorry, it won't happen again...today! ; )
October 6 2010 10:42 AM EDT
October 6 2010 12:17 PM EDT
Got a question. Which looks better:
STR - 72
CON - 72
LUCK - 72
Luck - 330
So far, I'm sticking with the top pair, but that bottom pair is tempting. I'm already at max armor for my level.
October 6 2010 12:19 PM EDT
my opinion is top pair
October 6 2010 12:31 PM EDT
I'd go with the bottom pair, or at least hold onto it. That extra armor will be useful when you outgrow your current number, and IMO the extra 114 stat points are worth it.
October 6 2010 12:40 PM EDT
i vote for luk
October 6 2010 1:06 PM EDT
the top are nice but those bottoms are a definite keeper for that much +% crit
October 6 2010 2:09 PM EDT
The additional luck bring me from 32.7% to 42.5%. I'm still sporting the top pair, but it's tempting...
Also, I'm well above my armor limit, but it's clearly helping. I got that item by test fighting a dungeon boss who was 8 levels higher. I won. I really didn't mean to beat him this early, rather to see how close I'd get.
i started another war this morning, please prep everyone!
Natasha finally sees her last target come into the open and strikes with swiftness marking his back with a big N.
October 7 2010 12:52 PM EDT
Assuming you started the war right before you posted, I should make it home in time to prep for this one.
i hope i figured it right for you getting home this time! if all of their big guys prep we will need all the damage we can get...they have 3 level 70's.
we are now being attacked as well so make sure you prep for both attack and defense! ; )
October 7 2010 4:26 PM EDT
October 7 2010 4:28 PM EDT
Also, maximum guild level is 100.
So it would be best to level all stats to 50, and then complete the 50 dungeons. (Each dungeon gives +1 to treasure, fortress and instructor)
This is assuming the that cost from 50->100 follows the same pattern as 1->50
October 7 2010 4:29 PM EDT
OMG that is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet
So theoretically, we can still go to +50 on all attributes, and then do all the guild dungeon bosses to get to 100 in all! :D
This is gonna be awesummmmm.
October 7 2010 4:34 PM EDT
I'm so excited!
The cost from level 99->100 will be somewhere around 375 mushrooms. So it looks like we'll have to max all the guild bonuses first, unless we really want to pay for it down the road. :(
Shroom overdrive? :)
so then are they also increasing the guild limit to 100 people as well?
October 7 2010 4:37 PM EDT
I'll start the auction of all the stuff on Shroom Drive as soon as I get home from work.
If anyone wishes to donate to the S&F Shroom Drive and I do not have space on the Shroom Drive character, please feel free to send it to any of my other characters - BUT MAKE SURE YOU LABEL THE TRADE ACCORDINGLY PLEASE. I'll create a new character if I need to for storage as well.
It's time for big donations so we can afford the push to finish our guild bonuses! :D
October 7 2010 5:17 PM EDT
Woah! Ladies and gents, we have some work to do. Seeing the guild dungeons sitting there and choosing not to play them is like holding back on a Christmas gift. Let's max those bonuses.
we just jumped treasure up another notch! ; )
October 7 2010 5:33 PM EDT
It's not necessary to wait for a sale to obtain the mushrooms needed to max the rest of the levels.
=2320 Shrooms needed.
No mushrooms are needed to participate in guild dungeons, so we won't be needing any extra.
i started another war for us today! it is casual friday so you can wear jeans to this war just please prep. ; )
October 8 2010 9:08 AM EDT
"You can get 50 levels by buying, and 50 levels by dungeon victories (automatically). If I understood correctly, the number of levels gained by dungeon raids does not effect the costs of the 50 other levels. "
October 8 2010 9:09 AM EDT
On another note, it's absurdly expensive to do guild dungeons. 106k for the first dungeon (on a german server)
wow, so we can do one as soon as we save up the gold then i guess.
by that time we should have some idea if we can win it and whether it is worth trying at our levels.
October 8 2010 9:19 AM EDT
By the forums, the first one has:
8 with level 10,
one with level 16
one with level 26
one with level 36
boss monster: (English name tba, rubber duck), level 50.
and the levels you get to the fortress does allow another guild member, in effect you can now have 100 max?
the server restarted a few minutes ago. i read on the forum that you can see your game version in the bottom right corner of you the game window, i sure as hell can't find it! anyone know where that is?
October 8 2010 9:28 AM EDT
It's in options: 1.60.294 now.
I would hold off on guild dungeons until there's clarification on the cost of guild upgrades when dungeon upgrades are involved.
Many assume it works like equipment (i.e. stats added by equipment don't effect cost), but we had better make sure ;)
well we won't have the gold for a bit regardless. ; )
October 8 2010 9:39 AM EDT
Really? I thought we were good on gold, and merely lacking mushrooms. This is the most gold I've seen in the guild >.>
gold for the guild dungeon raids, the first one is 106k.
should we ask everyone to donate 1k gold today. we can't start the guild dungeon until our guild battle is over and probably the 1.5 hour cooldown timer finishes, but we could do it late tonight/tomorrow morning if we get the gold?
i went ahead and sent out a mail message asking everyone to donate 1000 gold today as well as putting my 1k in. ; )
October 8 2010 10:48 AM EDT
Please note that we are still taking item/CBD donations on the Shroom Drive character to raise money to purchase shrooms for the guild! :)
October 8 2010 10:56 AM EDT
Let's keep an eye on the forums to hear from the initial wave of guild fighters to see if there's any surprise we should know about before we run headlong into the first dungeon fight (which will take a couple of days anyway). I don't expect the increased stats to affect future stat costs, but we don't want to be dumb about it.
October 8 2010 11:22 AM EDT
Yep, it's been confirmed by the german servers that guild dungeon levels do _not_ affect upgrade cost.
However, it's worth a thought to consider which is more beneficial gold wise: guild dungeons, or upgrades?
dungeons seem better only because they don't cost shrooms.
i would imagine that if we have the shrooms then the pay for upgrades would be better but if we are awaiting shroomage and get enough gold to run a guild dungeon then that would be best. ; )
October 8 2010 11:35 AM EDT
upgrades as soon as possible is important, the more we can upgrade our EXP, the faster we can grow, which means the sooner everyone can donate an increased amount of gold, which means the sooner we can reach the necessary gold amount for each individual dungeon
U > E > G > D > R!
that is true, but guild dungeons are a way to upgrade all bonuses at once using only gold. this will help our character growth and gold income all at once.
October 8 2010 11:44 AM EDT
also true, but it requires a great deal more gold.
106k for +1 to EXP and GOLD right now; using upgrades, that's 14.3k. All we lack is the shrooms. Otherwise, upgrades are far more worthwhile. (especially since you have the potential to lose a dungeon fight.)
i would imagine that if we have the shrooms then the pay for upgrades would be better but if we are awaiting shroomage and get enough gold to run a guild dungeon then that would be best. ; )
i still think this will be the best policy. we will definitely go at it intelligently though and make sure we should be able to win before throwing down 106k gold!
October 8 2010 12:01 PM EDT
Yes, we can pick off a single dungeon while we wait for the shrooms. Once we have the shrooms, it's a solid push for bonuses. Since we have a fight today, and we'll have one tomorrow, we can round out Sunday by taking on the first dungeon.
i think that we should be able to sell the cbd on shroom drive for 2.5 per million if we have any buyers from s&f wanting to buy the cb monies. at that rate we need 40 million for the $100 dollar purchase to finish out our shroom needs once and for all.
we have over ten million in there now and will end up with a few million more after this auction.
short of someone being extremely generous, this is our best bet so please donate what you can as you can for our shroom needs!
October 8 2010 2:28 PM EDT
i got a few USD on my paypal.. where do i send em to donate em for shrooms ?
October 8 2010 2:40 PM EDT
I will send a few million cb$ more
October 8 2010 2:41 PM EDT
Ankou (Iron Fist) 188.8.131.52 QBOddBird (Shroom Drive) $5000000 2:40 PM EDT
corath, lemme see if ob wants to use his paypal or mine. cm me if you haven't heard anything in a few hours.
it looks like we will be using my paypal to gather the various funds, if anyone else wants to donate usd through paypal please message me for my address! it is the same one as on my profile here though.
place a note in the transaction though to let me know who is donating please, unless of course you choose to remain anonymous.
October 8 2010 6:40 PM EDT
Also, there's apparently a bug with displaying the cost to go into a guild dungeon...what you see isn't what you get. According to the forums, "You'll have to do the math before and after to find out how much you paid to get into the dungeon."
well, with help from quite a few shroom donations we spent some gold today on 4 upgrades. it will take us longer to get the gold anyway so maybe the buggies will be worked out!
October 9 2010 11:41 AM EDT
War time again. Prep!
got a cloak of istari drop during xp time, sending it to shroom drive!
October 9 2010 2:43 PM EDT
Apparently level 100 fortress only makes you more costly to attack. It doesn't raise the member limit to 100.
i was waiting for that question to be answered, bummer! ; (
October 9 2010 3:48 PM EDT
Oh, also, I think Sayomi Kimura sent some incorrect information.
The cost for guild raids are correct, but the display costs are incorrect. For example, Some guilds report the button showing 526k for the raid, but only 106k is subtracted from their bank
There is no bug regarding the cost of dungeon raids.
October 9 2010 5:09 PM EDT
More good news!
All guild dungeons cost only gold and not mushrooms to complete.
October 9 2010 5:12 PM EDT
Yeah, the only bug is a display error. As per Bullbound:
There is also a problem with the displayed price being wrong. To determine the actual cost per dungeon, guilds are going to have to do the math themselves for before and after they declare the guild dungeon.
i think it was leander that posted the price shows correctly for officers over fifty, or the ones that can initiate it but incorrectly for others.
October 9 2010 10:03 PM EDT
Remember, we'll do our first guild dungeon tomorrow. You shouldn't have to do anything special for it, but be sure to watch the fight. Hurray for bonuses!
October 10 2010 11:06 AM EDT
Guild dungeon initiated. Be sure to prep to take part in the very first one.
October 10 2010 11:14 AM EDT
I AM PREPARED, BRING ON THE DUNGEON MOBSTERS
October 11 2010 6:29 PM EDT
Lets get some gold donations going to try the next one :)
make sure you check out ob's thread in the fs/wtb forum, he is auctioning off the cb raised from donations to purchase shrooms!
we will have a guild war tomorrow during xp time here, so be sure to prep.
October 11 2010 10:25 PM EDT
i was under the impression we were putting guild wars on hold until we maxed out guild dungeons
October 11 2010 10:30 PM EDT
We won't max out guild dungeons for a very, very, very long time. Very.
demi told me last night we weren't doing daily ones but would still do our xp time battles. the last targets i picked were 1500 gold or so each.
October 11 2010 11:36 PM EDT
We won't max out guild dungeons for a very, very, very long time. Very.
Thisssssss, I think the lv 4 guild dungeon would be a close call and we couldn't beat the lv 5 dungeon yet....and there are 50.
^ Awesome, I'd be disappointed if we could beat them all already.
October 12 2010 12:04 AM EDT
More GD bosses have been discovered. And that's GD for guild dungeon, not the other term. :)
Dungeon 1: The Wading Pool (Cost: 105,261 gold)
Boss monster: Neon Yellow Death, level 50, 1,144,440 hp, Scout
Dungeon 2: The 6 1/2 Seas (Cost: 226,620 gold)
Boss Monster: Hobgoblin's Boat, level 60, 1,854.400 hp, Scout
Dungeon 3: The Shallows Of The Deep Sea (Cost: 365,661 gold)
Boss Monster: Starfish of Death, level 70, 3,408,000 HP
Dungeon 4: Community Garden Colony (Cost: 523,836 gold)
Boss Monster: L80 Terror from the Deep, 3,758,400 HP / warrior
Dungeon 5: The Preschool of Horror (Cost: 702,750 gold)
Boss Monster: L90 Beastly Brat, 6,188,000 HP, Warrior
Dungeon 6: Realm Of The Dark Dwarves (Cost: 753,720)
Boss Monster: L100 King of The Dark Dwarves, 6,302,400 HP
Dungeon 7: The Glass Castle (Cost: 807,540 Gold)
Boss Monster: L110 Invisible Threat, 7,814,400 HP Scout
Guys, prep up....another guild war in the house!
October 12 2010 11:10 PM EDT
need some input. Recently I got a rare bow that I thought was friggin awesome, it was certainly an improvement over my old bow: 70-170 damage, 450 luck. now i just got a new bow that does 78-180, improving my damage by about 2k minimum and 4k max, and gives 172 dex. Tough decision as dex costs almost triple the gold that luck does. with the old bow my crit chance is 43.87%, the new bow lowers it to 22.64%. any suggestions?
October 12 2010 11:50 PM EDT
What is the damage range? You can figure in luck with your average damage and find out which is better overall.
i.e. if your luck gets you a 44% crit chance, multiply that bow's damage range by 1.44; if it gets you a 23% crit chance, multiply the bow's damage range by 1.23, and if the two are close then consider that DX has the dual purpose of also reducing damage from other scouts.
I'd take whichever gives you the higher average damage, figuring in criticals.
thanks to ob & ranger we should be finished soon with all of our shroom needs. i sent out a game mail but wanted to state here as well...do not donate any more shrooms or they may just sit on our guild account. we could still use lots of gold though and with our upgraded bonuses we should all be making tons of gold! ; )
October 13 2010 1:36 PM EDT
"Lots" is an understatement. We're going to need boat loads of the shiny metal stuff.
Keep in mind that an 84% gold bonus means you're getting 84% more gold than you would otherwise get. Don't forget to donate a portion of it back to the guild so we can max out those stats. Once we've done that, we only have to focus on guild dungeons.
that would be a 94% gold bonus currently! ; )
October 13 2010 2:48 PM EDT
See what happens when I can't log in from work? Cool things.
October 14 2010 9:13 AM EDT
Why did our Fortress drop to 49?
still shows 50 on my screen.
October 14 2010 9:28 AM EDT
But if it is showing correctly on everyone else's screen, I guess I'll just attribute it to my usual glitchiness. Thanks dude :)
congrats everyone! our treasure bonus is now maxed as far as buyable upgrades are concerned. ; )
October 14 2010 9:56 AM EDT
That's not likely a glitch on your side. I noticed that the two people who confirmed it to show 50 in your image were both officers. If you recall, the GD cost glitch didn't affect officers. There's a chance this is a similar issue that's exempt for officers.
The devs might have been playing with the new features, but I wouldn't worry about it. You might want to check the game's forums to see if anyone else sees the same thing.
October 14 2010 9:57 AM EDT
Woohoo! That means we're earning 200% gold for everything we do! Next up, maxing EXP.
October 14 2010 10:27 AM EDT
Yeah, when I posted a thread about it, around 4 others popped up at the same time. Looks like every guild on S&F is having these problems. (except they say it's really capping at this incorrect number, and they cannot take in new members.)
wow! it amazes me what you guys can do when you set your mind to it. we now need one fortress upgrade to max out, we are done on gold and we need one more experience upgrade.
at that point all our gold will go to guild wars and guild dungeon raids. thanks to all who are making this happen! ; )
October 14 2010 7:06 PM EDT
All the guild abilities are now maxed out.
we are at war people! don your armor and sharpen your pointy sticks.
October 16 2010 7:53 PM EDT
Any of you guys who skipped the fight missed an incredible performance. Someone buy Freed a virtual beer for batting cleanup.
That was a guild who beat us up recently. Sweet, sweet revenge.
October 18 2010 9:45 PM EDT
Dudemus volunteered to pick tomorrow's fight. If it stinks, blame him.
October 18 2010 10:33 PM EDT
We are so close to another dungeon...so close...!
aye, we should be doing the second guild dungeon on wednesday if donations hold up!
if the target i want is available tomorrow, they only cost 900 gold to fight.
October 18 2010 11:12 PM EDT
We'll reach the target goal tomorrow and do the fight on Wednesday. We're only short 40k gold, which isn't much when you consider our 102% gold bonus. All of us who are over level 65 can easily donate four figures of gold per day.
Remember to keep the donations coming. Freed can't do this on his own.
so go ahead with the guild war in the morning and dungeon wednesday, correct?
October 18 2010 11:33 PM EDT
October 19 2010 12:03 AM EDT
Thread's going to close out soon, we'll have to make yet another. xP
October 19 2010 12:05 AM EDT
It's your job to come up with a witty title. Cheers!
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